Who made the pyramids. They must have been smarter than us!

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
That just proves his point rah...

Exactly, it proves that we can build pyramids, and that we wouldnt build one thats useless. This one happens to be a beautiful hotel and casino.

[JohnT]

Also, saying "I think..." does not a fact make.

[rah]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
That just proves his point rah...

I posted that just to show that someone must have had some motivation.

RAH

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by rah


I posted that just to show that someone must have had some motivation.

RAH

I was referring to someone having the motivation to build pyramids exactly the same as the ones in egypt.

[Kropotkin]

Cali: Your opinions of what's beautiful should really led to you being taken to the back of a building and shoot in the head but I guess you can get away with it this time...

[Robert]

You guys don't really understand the point I make.
I'm not saying it's all true, all I try to say is that these guys were pretty smart.

You guys changed the subject to: How stupid is CyberShy.
That's fine, but don't lose the original "How smart were the builders of the pyramids".

I'll admit that I can't build a pyramid, thus I'm pretty dumb compared to them. Thanks for proving that point.

rah: That's not a pyramid like the ones in Egypt. Of course we can build 'modern' pyramids.

And indeed, I'm sure that 'everything' I find on the net won't be right.

Again: I don't take a position in this discussion. I just start it. Now stop the "I'm wiser and mightier and omnipontenter than CyberShy" crap, and talk about the pyramids.

thanks

[rah]

Originally posted by CyberShy

rah: That's not a pyramid like the ones in Egypt. Of course we can build 'modern' pyramids.

If we took this one back in time, I'm sure they'd be more impressed with ours than their's.

Back to the point. Yes these people knew what they were doing. (regardless of the outcome of the location debate)

[JohnT]

Btw, this site ( http://www.virtual-egypt.com/newhtml/tableofevents.html ) has the Cheops pyramids being built around 2,600 BCE, 600 years after the earlier quoted source, but still 600 years before the Hebrews came to Egypt (and 500 years before the birth of Abraham). So, regardless, the fact remains that the Egyptians did NOT measure out the pyramids in "els".

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Cali: Your opinions of what's beautiful should really led to you being taken to the back of a building and shoot in the head but I guess you can get away with it this time...

Obviously you have a problem with the morality of a hotel/casino, but it doesnt change the fact that the structure is beautiful.

[Robert]

Then it would have to be nearer to the equator.

You should say so indeed.
But pherhaps there's more distance from Sout-America to the south pole than from Scandinavia to the North pole.

It passes over the Mediteranean so its wrong. If water counts then the Americas go farther north and farther south. If water stops the projection than its still wrong.

straight? I think South America is leaning more to the east than North America.

And you believer EVERYTHING you see on the internet dodn't you?

Did I say I believed it?

Uhg. Boy that makes no sense. Stonehenge is in England. The stones aren't perfect in anyway whatsoever.

that remark wasn't made about stonehenge.
And yes, it's in england (and in israel)
(Like the pyramids are in egypt, and in Sout America) (in a different form though)

that makes it even......... more mystrious

[Robert]

So, regardless, the fact remains that the Egyptians did NOT measure out the pyramids in "els".

Are the hebrews the originators of the el?
I think it's more likely that the hebrews got it from the superior civilization in those days......

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Again: I don't take a position in this discussion. I just start it. Now stop the "I'm wiser and mightier and omnipontenter than CyberShy" crap, and talk about the pyramids.

You took the position that the builders of the pyramids must have been smarter than us, and asserted (without evidence) that we dont have the technical know-how to reproduce these structures.

In both cases youre wrong.

[Q Classic]

what would be your center?

well, you're basing the idea that the pyramids are at the center on the notion that the international date line cleaves west and east.

could we just not make the same assumption with, say, the prime meridian? if that were so, the center of landmass would naturally be different.

or say we picked 45 west? again, the center of landmass would be different.

[Robert]

ok, that's right.

Pherhaps they mean, compared to the knowledge we have. Could we do it under the same circumstanses?
But in fact I don't even care if we could build it.

More important is, if they were that smart, why did they only build pyramids, why did we lose much of their inteligence / knowledge, and HOW smart were they actually?

[Robert]

well, you're basing the notion that the pyramids are at the center on the notion that the international date line cleaves west and east.

Well, and since about everybody thinks that THAT's the best position for the date-line, I think everybody thinks that the location of the pyramids will be there as well.

We *could* have chosen another date-line, but we didn't. Seems like most people will agree. And indeed, of course in fact earth has no center. (oh well, it does, but not on the surface).

But if you have to pick a center, most people (except you) would chose THAT center.

Now you could claim of course that those egyptians were stupid for chosing that center. I think it's pretty smart for people that obviously didn't knew the shape of the entire world............