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  • #46
    Originally posted by paiktis22
    read this again


    The point is that the human rights abuses "justification" is used for the US to achieve its aims against its enemies.

    In cases where the regims are friends of the US the abuses are muted.
    I don't agree with our foreign policy most of the time. I think all oppressive governments must be replaced. The federal government is more corrupt than the Roman Senate.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by CyberShy
      [q]

      We SHOULD interfere there (we = USA, I'm afraid that we, the dutch, won't ) otherwise it would be like I know that my neighbour abuses his doughter, but I won't do anything about it because it's his house.

      This counts even more for North Korea.
      These are sovereign countries, but countries that are abused by their dictators.

      The all-peace thing sounds oh so good, but it is as cruel as anything can be. It's more like "I shut my eyes so I don't see how that robber is going to kill you" strategy.
      What if you happen to kill the daughter while capturing the father?
      Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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      • #48
        What if America does attack Iraq and its troops are subjected to chemical and biological WMD attacks? Would that not prove that Iraq had indeed been keeping and/or building anew some WMD stocks? Or would some find the WMD use excusable now due to America being so "imperialistic?"

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        • #49
          Is there even a question if Iraq has WoMD? what did he do against the Kurds, and the Iranis? fart on them? Is there anyone in this forum that actually doubts the fact that Iraq has WoMD?
          urgh.NSFW

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          • #50
            I doubt it. He has not used those weapons since the 1980s. The vast majority of them, if not all of them, were destroyed by UNESCO. Since Iraq can't even get basic chlorine needed to clean their water supplies (the main reason 1,000,000 Iraqis have died under the embargo), it's extremely doubtful they have been able to replenish their WoMD.

            Is Hussein a very bad man, without a doubt. Is he the worst in a world full of very bad men? No. Is he among the worst, probably. Would the Iraqi people be better off without him? Possibly, unless the country decends into civil war and gets gobbled up by Iran and Turkey.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #51
              Greece should be the next target, paiktis is creating posts of mass destruction.
              I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
              i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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              • #52
                Aren't you a Greek-American?
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • #53
                  Letting Iran gobble up Iraq would be worse than letting Saddam stay. Long term its Iran and Saudi Arabia that we have to worry about.

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                  • #54
                    How would that work?

                    Would we green light a Turkish invasion of Greece? That would be my choice.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      Aren't you a Greek-American?
                      Yes, the motherland must be saved.
                      I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
                      i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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                      • #56
                        I doubt we could really stop it. Turkey isn't about to let an independent Kurdistan set up on its back door. In fact, Turkey basically has made it know that's the price for it's allowing the US to use it as a base to attack Iraq.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #57
                          i'msorry but we cant be attacked now. we are busy preparing the olympics. later on maybe

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                          • #58
                            You will be assimilated.
                            I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
                            i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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                            • #59
                              never. better dead than a little american

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by paiktis22
                                never. better dead than a little american
                                Either way works for me.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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