Yet again, Palestinian Claims Are Proven to Be False By the UN.

[Jaakko]

I ain't saying Israel is wrong here Eli. In fact I always thought it very unlikely that the IDF could have lost control enough to cause a massacre.
I'm just wondering why, for you, it seems that the credibility of an organisation depends on the conclusions it comes to. When the UN's Ahtisaari commission was coming to Jenin, you got your panties all twisted up on their supposed unfair bias, but now that the UN found there was no massacre, there's suddenly nothing wrong with the organisation. You seem to assume that there can only be bias in decisions or findings that go against Israel.

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Frogger


How about all the Loyalists who were either hanged, assaulted or chased out of town, and had their property stolen to boot?

The survivors relocated to Montreal and have been pissing the locals ever since...

[Sirotnikov]

There was indeed a massacre.

Hmmm it's interesting that 500 people being killed, most of them armed, as direct and undirect result of heavy fighting (READ: both sides were shooting) is a massacare.

I'll go update my dictionary.

[Sirotnikov]

Or as Apolyton's resident Israel haters like to do, condemning any Israeli action while refusing to condemn obvious and numerous cases of Palestinian murder of Israeli and other civilians.

*cough* CyberGnu *cough*

That will drag every conflict out forever and cause a lot of casualties, but I suppose no price is too great to pay for "justice".

bingo.

I'm just wondering why, for you, it seems that the credibility of an organisation depends on the conclusions it comes to.

Can't a girl change it's mind?

When the UN's Ahtisaari commission was coming to Jenin, you got your panties all twisted up on their supposed unfair bias, but now that the UN found there was no massacre, there's suddenly nothing wrong with the organisation. You seem to assume that there can only be bias in decisions or findings that go against Israel.

Look, we didn't mind the UN coming here and checking.

We did mind, the UN sending people who are known to be anti-Israeli or people who are not war experts.

And we did manage to stop the suggested people from coming to Israel.

But don't forget - it was Israel that originally suggested the idea of an inquiry! We denied it only after finding out who they intended to send this way.

It is obvious that if you're going to send peaceniks to a war zone they are going to find all sorts of humanitarian problems. DUH! It's a war zone! What Israel wanted is military experts, who know how a normal war zone looks, that could tell whether Israel used too much force and whether a massacare occured.

[Sirotnikov]

Btw, Jaakko, I missed you

I appriciate your POV and I consider you fair. But you don't troll half as well as you used to

[Jaakko]

Okay, just where can I find evidence that there were "anti-Israel" people on the commission? Mere allegations don't fly too far.
And as far as military expertise goes, one should think that the former general included in the team would have been enough. At least that was what everyone except Israel thought.

[Jaakko]

I'm working on the trolling bit Siro, I'm just expending all my talent on some morons on other boards...

I have a lot of respect for you resident Israelis, especially now that I've seen the fanatics on a certain Finnish news forum (all sane people have fled the place by now).

Edit: and I've missed you too.

[JCG]

Well I remember reading somewhere that a "massacre" technically would have to consist of more that 3 people murdered...so if let's say "just" 15 innocents died, then it's a massacre by those standards.

I believe that, had the UN been given complete access to both the israeli and the palestian views and evidence plus a field examination of the site ASAP, then it's findings could be considered wholly accurate.

[Sirotnikov]

Well, there were several people, most known to be anti-Israeli. Terrie Larsen for once, who is a stupid fool, and declared this a massacare even before he came. Another woman whose title and name I don't recall, but I recall reading that she was a rabid anti-Israeli.

One was the previous chairman of the red cross and crescent, who is accused of being anti-semitic. He refused to accept the red shield of david into the union, and compared the shield of david with the swaistika.

And just think - one general compared to 4 peacenik softies in an inquiry about war.

It's like letting 4 war-like feminisits and a guy sit in an iquiry board having something to do with men. Catch my drift?

About dem Israelis - feel free to bring them here. I think CyberGnu and S Kroeze get bored of me. Probably bored of listening only to themselves though

It's nice though to talk to someone who will actually listen and invent some logical phallacy to post.

Natan (very very smart 14 y/o jew) left. Che declared me victorious and left after some pro-Israelis dragged him into a several hours long marathon. what's funnier is that it wasn't at all planned. Simply the Israelis in different time zones changed, and che remained, until he got tired and declared he submits to me

[CyberGnu]

cough* CyberGnu *cough*

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[Panag]

Originally posted by CyberGnu
Ned, where on earth did you get that idea that I claim hundreds of people died in Jenin?

hi ,

maybe he got it from your post's , right after you saw on cnn the name "jenin" , ......and started to tell here that we where killing thousands of people , ......
like we do every day , ......

have a nice day

[Eli]

Hi panag. Where have you been?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Eli
Hi panag. Where have you been?

hi ,

hunting , ......

you know , the favorite pasttime for Jews and Israeli's , ...

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Eli
Hi panag. Where have you been?

hi ,

somewhere with the feet in the air , away from everything , .... > VACATION , ....

and when are you going on holidays , ...?

have a nice day

[Gibsie]

"Yet again, Palestinian Claims Are Proven to Be False By the UN."

It just seems weird that the Israelis are going "Told you so" when an organisation they labelled anti-semitic repeatedly in the past has agreed with their versions of events.