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  • #61
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    Originally posted by Space05us
    they got spanked in WW2 as well. winter saved them.


    Oh great, a glorious representative of glorious American education system arrived.
    During our history, we've won a dozen times more wars then you ever have.


    I wasnt making refrence to any other wars.
    clearly you dont deny it.

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    • #62
      they got spanked in WW2 as well. winter saved them.
      I deny it, because it's bull****.
      Feel better now?

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      • #63
        Much better thank you

        I would prove you wrong, but cant be botherd to go look for information on it at the moment as i must get off the computer soon.

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        • #64
          Power no longer comes from military might, it comes from money simply because nuclear weapons have made massed armies engaged in conventional warfare obsolete. Nations will not risk a conventional war because of the risk that it will lead to all-out nuclear war.

          So power instead comes from corporate influence. The economic strength of the United States has far more influence on world politics compared to the stength of the US military.

          Just look at how corporations manipulate the American political system. Look at how American corporations influence political systems throughout the world. That's the true power these days.
          Golfing since 67

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          • #65
            I would prove you wrong, but cant be botherd to go look for information on it at the moment as i must get off the computer soon.
            You should better read a couple of books about WW2, Germans or Russian don't matter, only not American books.

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            • #66
              many of you assume japan to be a dominant player in east asia in the coming century. while this is probably very likely, japan is not likely to be a superpower anytime soon. if you look at the economic and military information, you'll see that japan, although putting more money into its self-defense forces, still is unable to compete in scope or training with either the koreans or the chinese; and its economy has been faltering for the past ten years, with no letup in sight.
              so while japan will be very influential in east asia and the pacific rim, i'd have to pull the barycenter of power away from them and put it much closer to china.

              a unified korea would be very formidable; as it stands right now, also, south korea alone has far brighter prospects than japan, as it may be the first pacific rim nation to make the leap to a service-based economy, while japan remains mired in an industrial economy. there is a caveat, however. unless nkorea's economy rebounds (HA!) and grows fairly fast for the several years before unification--so that its GDP is about 65%-75% of skorea's--any sort of reunification would be disasterous economically for the koreas, as well as the rest of the pacific rim.
              why? skorea would be pushed on the edge of bankruptcy, because it does not have the finances to bring nkorea to skorea's standards of living. (i doubt any country does, save the us.) and with skorea near bankrupt, or bankrupt, any economic news from japan would be bad. primarily because skorea is not only one of japan's biggest trading partners, but also because a weaker won results in more competitive korean goods-- resulting in cheaper japanese products in an already cash-strapped japanese economy.
              B♭3

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              • #67
                America has twenty years at most left as top dog. Two many other countries are working on being a superpower. India, EU, Russia, China and so on
                I have walked since the dawn of time and were ever I walk, death is sure to follow. As surely as night follows day.

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                • #68
                  World Superpowers? Well the U.S. isn't going to just walk away from the superpower table... we'd have to be shoved away.

                  But the only nations that have superpower capability within the next 50 years are China and Russia.

                  China is really questionable though, as they have about a 40-year technology gap between themselves and the U.S.

                  and Russia only if they keep their growth from the last few years going...

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                  • #69
                    and Russia only if they keep their growth from the last few years going...
                    Don't worry, Yelt-Sin is out of the game. The period of anarchy after government switch is over now. We'll keep it.

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                    • #70
                      i doubt that eastern provinces could separate from Russia.
                      They are too weak. And Chineese? I guess they could smash Russia, but I doubt USA and Europe would allow that... Today Russia is poor and weak, and will stay that way for years... Perhaps it may obtain a role of regional
                      might... Now it's big and weak and can't even take care of its own provinces.
                      "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                      I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                      Middle East!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Heresson
                        i doubt that eastern provinces could separate from Russia.
                        They are too weak. And Chineese? I guess they could smash Russia, but I doubt USA and Europe would allow that... Today Russia is poor and weak, and will stay that way for years... Perhaps it may obtain a role of regional
                        might... Now it's big and weak and can't even take care of its own provinces.
                        If China were dumb enough to try anything... Russia would be the one doing the smashing... The T-80 tank is the world's second best tank, right behind the Abrams M1A2. Russia's technical (and numerical in high-tech military equipment) edge over the Chinese is currently supreme.

                        I'll give the Chinese that they'd be able to take a fair chunk of the Far East before the Russians got their act together, but once they did... lookout!

                        The far more likely option is that Russia would simply nuke China in retaliation of an invasion.

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                        • #72

                          Thank you Heresson, it was fascinating speech. You know where to find the picture with big, red guy (on page 1 in case that you forget). Look on it again and read what typed below the picture.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by DarthVeda

                            The T-80 tank is the world's second best tank, right behind the Abrams M1A2.
                            Well, thank you very much. Most of the Americans (I mean the part which even never saw it) usualy saying that T-80U is just a peice of rusty sh*t.
                            But, sure I'm still absolutely sure that it's the best tank of the world. (Ok, at least M1A2 and T-80U share the first place)


                            The far more likely option is that Russia would simply nuke China in retaliation of an invasion.
                            No doubt. It will be a retaliation of any invasion. And rightful retaliation.

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                            • #74
                              I thought the term "superpower" had been deemed obsolete when little renegade nations started developing nuclear arsenals...

                              Hey, wait! If the US loses its place as world superpower, does this mean people will stop trashing it? I wonder what everyone will do with all their free time THEN....

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                              • #75
                                Hey, wait! If the US loses its place as world superpower, does this mean people will stop trashing it?
                                Sure. Do it.

                                I wonder what everyone will do with all their free time THEN....
                                The people will find another victim. It's just in man nature to trush someone all the time.

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