Arabs in U.S. could be held, official warns

[orange]

I don't really know what scares me more, the fact that it could happen, or the possibility that most Americans would stand for it

[Arrian]

I second that sentiment, Orange.

I don't think "most Americans" would stand for it, but that may be overly optomistic of me.

As to the news article that started this whole discussion, it seems to me that some gummint flunkies said some stupid things at a conference. I wouldn't jump the gun here and start organizing the resistance.

-Arrian

[Q Classic]

[qutoe]We saw no sabatoge from the Japanese. I also note they were locked up. Whether being locked up was the only reason for there being no sabatoge is left to speculation and revisionist history. [/quote]
it was wrong. there's no bones about it. besides, the japanese that managed to leave the internment camps by volunteering for military service ended up as some of the most loyal and determined units in europe.

I take it that the Supreme Court are morons as well.

right, it's not like the supreme court has made any bad decisions in the past...
scott v sanford, for instance...

[orange]

out of curiosity I asked my mom, a pretty mainstream american centrist...and she said that she honestly didn't know if she would do anything about it so much as silently condem it

I think as long as it's not them, most Americans wouldn't really care

[Imran Siddiqui]

Scary... like that famous quote about the guy not saying anything when the Nazis came for other people... and then there was no one left to speak for him when they came for him.

[Arrian]

Yeah, that came to mind.

I don't think it will come to that, though, Imran. I really don't. The so-called "average American" doesn't get much credit (I mean, seriously, it's pretty clear that the politicians think we're all idiots, isn't it?). Personally, though I do despair at times, I think the average American would oppose such a draconian move.

-Arrian

[Bereta_Eder]

get it right Imran

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Scary... like that famous quote about the guy not saying anything when the Nazis came for other people... and then there was no one left to speak for him when they came for him.

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out — because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out — because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out — because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me —
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.





In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me -
and by that time no one was left to speak up.




When Hitler attacked the Jews I was not a Jew, therefore I was not concerned. And when Hitler attacked the Catholics, I was not a Catholic, and therefore, I was not concerned. And when Hitler attacked the unions and the industrialists, I was not a member of the unions and I was not concerned. Then Hitler attacked me and the Protestant church — and there was nobody left to be concerned.

Pastor Martin Niemöller


there are the 3 versions of what he said.

[Bereta_Eder]

I think americans would indeed react and fiercly if something like this was going on.

I know Europeans would (if there even was a question about it).


Sometimes you dont give yourselves enough credit me thinks

[Kitschum]

Unless I'm completely misremembering, more Arab Americans are Christians than Muslims anyway. I'm amazed that I haven't seen that pointed out already.

Cheers,

[Stefu]

With or without Swedes we will bring him down.

Would it make any difference?

I mean, it's obvious that mighty army of Sweden couldn't participate. They might lose their hair nets, not to mention how conditions in war zone clearly aren't occupationally safe.

[Kitschum]

Originally posted by Stefu


Would it make any difference?

I mean, it's obvious that mighty army of Sweden couldn't participate. They might lose their hair nets, not to mention how conditions in war zone clearly aren't occupationally safe.

Too true. And pink might be fashionable in gay bars and on the catwalks, but it might not make for the best camouflage when running around fighting a war.

OTOH, sexy Mid Eastern girls obviously love us. . .

[Ned]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
Well Ned is right and Ned is wrong. Nothing wrong with the theory of what he is saying, but the practical application wouldn't work because most people can't wrap their mind around the concept.

jimmytrick, Do you know how economists treat the value of stocks? Greenspan recent testimony suggests that economist are only now beging to understand that the value of individuals portfolios is treated as available cash by the average investor. He said the collapse of stock prices was having a strong negative pressure buying, and was certain forcing down prices on big ticket items like houses. (Which helps explain why house prices are falling even as interest rates plummet.)

I think it can be viewed on both sides of the equation. But what do economists think?

[KrazyHorse]

And, let's further assume that deflation is at 10%. That 980 is worth approx. $1080 in constant value buying power. The loan cost you 1080-1000 (you kept 20) = 80

We already posited a 50% deflation rate, sweetheart. It doesn't matter. The loan didn't cost me anything. At the beginning of the year I had a sock, a bed and no money. At the end of the year I had a sock, a bed and 20$.

[KrazyHorse]

Every time you try to argue your way out of the hole you've dug for yourself it gains you an extra tick in the moron department...

A negative interest rate would result in people borrowing massive amounts of money to simply squirrel it away. And be paid for doing so. Jesus Christ...

[Giancarlo]

Ned is still going on about this? He obviously is pushing himself deeper in the mud....

He is trying to act like he is the economist around here when he doesn't have the slightest clue. Even frogger knows that if there was a negative interest rate people would borrow more and also be paid a little extra to do so. Effectively bankrupting the country. Has it happened before? Well in Mexico, the bank policies of one ex-President though not as similar as what ned is saying did exhaust the entire banking system in a year.