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  • Originally posted by CyberGnu
    Monk, why would that be? Because he would only achieve mental anguish if he realizes what horrors he is defending, while if he avoids the issue he can stay in blissful ignorance?
    No, because only Tweedledum can understand Tweedledee.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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    • BlackIce, as I suspected, not man enough.

      This is a quote from your post 02-08-2002 00:26:
      One more time the break done of the casualties are correct. The guidelines used are the same ones they used to determin the Jenin situation.
      I'm just asking you to show exactly where in the jenin report these 'guidelines' appear.

      I can give you a hint: They don't. I read the report. There is no breakdown of the casualties in anything but 'fighters' and 'civilians'. And the UN doesn't even make a definite statement, just 'reported as civilians by ...' and 'possible civilians'.


      I think it is pretty clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. As I said, it would be nice if you were man enough to admit it, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
      Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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      • monk:
        No, because only Tweedledum can understand Tweedledee.
        Alas, you are (although in less extreme terms) comparing Einstein with the village idiot... Just because you cannot understand either of them doesn't mean they both are idiots...
        Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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        • No, because only Tweedledum can understand Tweedledee.


          Hummmm

          The Bible is far more complicated than we remember. We know that Cain murdered his brother Abel. It’s simple, right? Cain is bad; Abel is good. And yet, when we examine the Book of Genesis, we may lose our confidence in Cain’s utter wickedness. The brothers’ story begins when God accepts Abel’s sacrifice but rejects Cain’s offering. Interpreting the story in later generations, some of our ancient rabbis attempt to brand Cain as malevolent from the get-go; they charge that he presents God with inferior produce, keeping the best for himself. And yet, the Bible itself levels no such indictment. Cain does not seem to be wicked until he murders Abel, an act that is certainly evil. God punishes Cain severely. Later, though, Cain appears to live his life appropriately, in keeping with God’s expectations. The evidence is that this biblical figure, guilty of the most heinous of all crimes, is not without merit. God appears to give him another chance, and not to treat him as thoroughly evil. If God can see Cain as something other than completely wicked, are we to judge him more harshly? We begin to realize that what seemed black and white may be better characterized as charcoal gray.
          “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
          Or do we?

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          • ?
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            • I'm just asking you to show exactly where in the jenin report these 'guidelines' appear.

              I can give you a hint: They don't. I read the report. There is no breakdown of the casualties in anything but 'fighters' and 'civilians'. And the UN doesn't even make a definite statement, just 'reported as civilians by ...' and 'possible civilians'.


              I think it is pretty clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. As I said, it would be nice if you were man enough to admit it, but I'm not going to hold my breath.


              Oh I get it they just guessed... You know Cyber it is obviously well over your head here. You simply do not understand and or are being defiant about the way international law works. One way or the other
              "village idiot" seems to fit you yes.
              Once you get to understand how they come to these decissions, post again. Right now you need to retire your logic is flawed, baseless and or stuborn.

              They guessed right Here comes that word that so aptly descibes ignorance is bliss FLAKE
              “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
              Or do we?

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              • Originally posted by CyberGnu
                muxec, hate to burst your bubble, but that was the most asinine personal attack I've seen in a long time. Even Chris62 did it better.

                Question is, are you an idiot, or are you just trying to divert the argument from the pus-filled boil on humanity that is the state of israel?
                The truth hurts.
                money sqrt evil;
                My literacy level are appalling.

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                • No BlackIce, they avoid making a definite statement. they state quite clearly that the world will never know what truly happened in Jenin, as impartial observers weren't allowed. Instead they have to rely on reports by human rights organizations, eyewitnesses and goverment announcements. I take it you didn't read the report? Didn;t stop you from referring to it's content about three times in the same post...


                  Anyway, it is quite clear this is above your head. My expectations have been fulfilled, you have nothing to add and instead resort to name calling.


                  Maybe if I try really hard I can come up with an argument that is simple enough that even you would understand it...

                  Look at the pretty choo-choo! Ooooh, good BlackIce! Can BlackIce say 'Dada'?

                  Hmm, right intellectual level, but alas, not really filled with information. I guess the two requirements are mutually exclusive.
                  Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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                  • Oh, I'm sorry muxec, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

                    It's not your fault. Well, most likely not. I guess you could have killed of your braincells by sniffing glue, but I think it is much more likley your parents dropped you on your head as a younger child.
                    Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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                    • Sweden natist shame Selma Lagerlef.
                      money sqrt evil;
                      My literacy level are appalling.

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                      • CyberGnu, you hate jews and their country due to inferiority complex. But i confirm that i have pity on you.
                        We are both in sh*t, but you are in deep **** and I am in shallow sh*t.
                        money sqrt evil;
                        My literacy level are appalling.

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                        • ?
                          Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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                          • Hmm, if they dropped you, was it down a flight of stairs?

                            Either that or you must have used MASSIVE quantities of glue...
                            Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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                            • CyperGnu, if you use glue not according to manual i must to inform police.
                              money sqrt evil;
                              My literacy level are appalling.

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                              • Well, since the last intelligent argument from the pro-israeli side was four pages ago, I guess we can declare the issue settled.

                                Of course, there is the off chance that Siro is collecting source material for his answer to Kroeze...

                                HAHAHAHAHAHA

                                Oh, I'm killing myself.
                                Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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