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  • #31
    I don't think there is anything wrong with homosexuality.

    I do think that all types of sex - hetero, homo and whatever other permutations - are silly, icky wastes of time that will hopefully soon be unnecessary.

    But I do not think that sexual practice and orientation are the same thing, which is why one chuckles at the arguments against homosexuality which revolve around revulsion for the act.

    It is perfectly logically possible to be homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual, but never engage in any physical fulfilment of that orientation.

    One also finds it slightly amusing when the old chestnut that sexuality is a choice comes up. Not necessarily in this chapter of the Neverending Story, but in many places.
    If it was a choice, why would homosexuals choose to be the way they are, and face prejudice, attacks, abuse, violence, bigotry, etc, etc? And that is just in the enlightened West.
    Why would a person choose to be a homosexual in an Arab nation, or in any number of countries now and in history that have persecuted those of such an orientation.
    This is another part of why one thinks there is a massive difference between the act, and the inclination.
    By this token, and this will probably get hugely flamed, I see a major difference between paedophilia and child abuse,( if we go by the terminology that the former is the disorder/inclination/desire, and the latter is acting upon it) to the extent that the latter requires shooting, and the former pity and treatment.

    I stay out of the whole mess myself, but if others want to do whatever they wish, then do what thou wilt. I do wish that people would stop flaunting their heterosexuality in my face and presence, though. I find that a far more prevalent problem than displays of homosexuality.

    This is not to say that I am unreasonably against all displays of public affection. On the contrary, if it fulfills certain basic guidelines and is in an appropriate situation - i.e. They've been married for 25 years (preferrably to one another), have permission from both Popes, and it is a St Junipers Day that happens to fall upon a full moon, I may find it in me to allow a single peck on the hand.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Boris Godunov
      There isn't anything perverted about two men or women loving each other.
      No, it doesn't get perverted until you take on your whole club in one night...
      "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
      "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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      • #33
        I think it's vile and disgusting, but it's up to individuals what they do. I have a couple of friends who happen to be gay.

        I agree with:

        "i really dont care if a guy likes guys. i just dont want to KNOW about it. "
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        • #34
          I've got nothing against homosexuals. I try and treat everyone as equals. One of my mom's friends, who I've known for many years is a lesbian.

          The only problem I have is that I don't want to know about other people's relationships, homo, hetero, or bi.

          I am sorry, but I have to admit, seeing two dudes kiss on MTV is gross. But I don't hold anything against them. In fact, since most of the gay men I've met in my life are 'pretty boys', it just means more girls for the rest of us. ... I actually wish that like 95% of guys were gay so that I could have like a 1000:1 girl:hetero male ratio.
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Boddington's
            I think it's vile and disgusting, but it's up to individuals what they do. I have a couple of friends who happen to be gay.

            I agree with:

            "i really dont care if a guy likes guys. i just dont want to KNOW about it. "
            And yet you never mention your romantic life?

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            • #36
              No, I don't.
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              • #37




                Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                We've got both kinds

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                • #38
                  Not much anyway.

                  (Is that all you could find? )
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                  • #39
                    Common , Mike. Everyone knows that he is bluffing.

                    I don't care about listening to love stories , whichever.
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #40
                      I only did a quick search, I couldn't be bothered to look that hard.
                      Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                      Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                      We've got both kinds

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                      • #41
                        People only feel 'wierd' when seeing two guys kissing because it they aren't used to it. For homosexuals seeing a man and a woman kissing isn't arousing, but we are pretty much used to it.

                        However, I do find the female vagina repulsive and the physical act of heterosexual sex isn't too pleasant either. Yet it is rammed down my throat (not literally )

                        People who complain at same-sex couples for kissing in public sicken me.

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                        • #42
                          Same-sex kissing in public is a bit like picking your nose or scratching your arse. Sure, do it if you want, but don't expect people to want to see it.
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                          • #43
                            IMO, treating homosexuals badly is the same as treating black people badly. Is he worse than you because he got black skin? No. Is he worse than you because his sexual preference is towards persons of the same gender? No.

                            Yes, it's very sad that during the middle ages homosexuals were often, well, a subject to torture. And even now it's illegal in some countries. But legalizing homosexuality alone doesn't do it - the sociery must be able to view them as equal people.

                            Yes, for many of us heterosexual males seeing two males kissing, etc. might not be too much of a pleasure. But they can't imagine how do we get pleasure from sleeping with women!

                            AFAIK, there's no sexual orientation gene, it's determined just by the person during life.
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                            • #44
                              I agree with FG that homosexuality is 'unnatural'.

                              By this I mean that the natural, intended (evolutionarily speaking) use for the male sexual organs is for reproduction. For this you need to have sex witha woman - not a man.

                              However, by this token, recreational hetro sex is also 'unnatural', as are condoms, the pill, etc.

                              So I think one has to separate the notions of 'natural' and 'wrong'.

                              From a religious Christian point of view, a man loving another man is not wrong. In fact, the bible even encourages it - you should love your neighbour irrespective of their sex. It is only gay sex itself that the bible condemns.

                              And I think this is acceptable. We live in a free society, so we should be allowed to have free opinions on which acts are 'right' and 'wrong'. I think it is perfectly reasonable for people to hold the opinion that gay sex is wrong.

                              I do not believe that homosexuality is genetic, but I do believe that it is fixed by enviromental factors when young or maybe just chance, ie. I don't believe people choose to be gay or straight. In this light, I think it is wrong to discriminate against people who are gay, and I don't think they are doing anything wrong by being gay.

                              I pesonally think gay sex is wrong. However, it is no more wrong than lying, arrogance, pride, vanity etc etc, and it is certainly not as bad (from a religious pov) as blasphemy. We live in a free society, and we must allow people to do 'wrong' things as long as they don't hurt anyone else, so even though I think gay sex is wrong, I would defend anyone's right to indulge in it should that right be threatened.

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                              • #45
                                As far as "naturality" goes, all of the sexual culture that now exists isn't meant to be. Including sexy dresses - they just make men get excited, which isn't supposed to be.

                                The evolutionary way would probably be having sex 2-4 times in the lifetime, getting a few children, and that's all. Well, some people in some cultures have over 15 children, but that's a different story.
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