Why is homosexuality "wrong"

[MrFun]

SIGH

First off, there are homophobic Jews and Christians who hand pick parts of the Bible that speak out against homosexual behavior, and avoid other parts of their scripture that is not convenient for them to follow.


Secondly, as Boris pointed out, the social norm right now is that heterosexual sex is acceptable, but homosexual sex is not.

This does not mean that homosexual sex is not legitimate -- it's simply that society refuses to recognize its legitimacy.

[Starchild]

even most gay men have had heterosexual sex at least once

Not this queen. It's so...oh gawd. The mechanics of straight sex mystify me. It's so..and then there's....and what does that do?....

As my former manager once remarked, I'm "purebred homo." 110% Grade A Certified Gay.

As for the thread topic, it's not wrong.

Well, 40 year old queens that wear tight shirts despite having let themselves go twenty years prior shopping for "that perfect conversation piece" to go in their Colonial Style Leather Dungeon is wrong on so many different levels but you can't use that to condemn all gays.

Note: Starchild is not anti-shopping, anti-tight shirts, anti-mature men (oooh, the experience they have!), anti-leather, anti-S&M, anti-interior decorating. He enjoys all of that, just seperately and not thrown together in one horrifying abomination.

Nor is Starchild anti-women or anti-hetero. He has many women, hetero, and hetero women friends. They make excellent shopping partners.

[Timexwatch]

I'm not a fan of men taking it in the pooper.....


Women, on the other hand...

[MrFun]

You don't have to enjoy homosexual sex yourself, to respect the rights of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals and recognize their legitimacy.

[faded glory]

Actually ice. That isnt really it. I meant backwards and pointless by totally opting out of spreading there genes. Its really not the way nature is set up.

btw dont be paranoid about the human race going anywhere. (just a guess, but it seems right) 95% of us here on earth are heterosexuals and are attracted to members of the other sex. Its doubtful there will ever be a day when homosexuality will be able to significantly effect the worlds population. Homosexuality has been around since the begining of civilization (there were probably a few Cave queens back in the day too). Its always represented a good 5-10% of the population.


As for the mechanics of str8 sex. I can say, its good. Damn good and fun. Damn fun. And until we can have a gene-selector and bio-mechanical womb. It will have to work (and even when a Bio-mechanical carrier is made, most of us will still like women)


oh ya. Wheres my pizza?

[blackice]

As much as you have been whining about the world, one would think that would be an outcome you would strive for.

Ah the labels a comments of the ignorant, in your case it may be prefered. Stupid people should not breed obviously

But since that isn't a valid concern, it's rather pointless as an argument against homosexuality.

It isn't?

favor of tolerance and acceptance of gays

You bet

it's simply that society refuses to recognize its legitimacy.

Some of society, be clear...

[Inverse Icarus]

i really dont care if a guy likes guys. i just dont want to KNOW about it.

go ahead and flame me for being a homophobe.

i'm not afraid they'll come on to me, i'm not afraid they'll give me AIDS or anything like that.

I just am honestly disgusted by it. I saw two guys kissing in the halls of my highschool and my stomach turned. i swear on my life i almost puked. i dont know WHY, but it weirds me out.

i dont HATE gay people. i know of several. i talk to one on a quasi-daily basis. he knows that it weirds me out, and he doesn't go out of his way to remind me that he's gay.

yes, i know theres nothign *wrong* with being gay (wakes up the super conservatives). i've been subject to the american high school brainwashing campaigns. theres nothing wrong with it in my opinion, i just dont like to know about it.

i understand that it's your RIGHT to be gay. i understand that you may want to feel proud of it, to vocalize your opinions / feelings. I understand that this is also a fundamental right of yours. I know everything you do *should* be prefectly legal, but again, it just weirds me out to no end. I just flat out dont like it being shoved in my face.

If you're gay, you're gay. You have the same oppurtunities to gain my respect based on your character. I do not want to know about your sexual prefrence, and if you dont respect me enough to acknowledge that, to keep your "gay" out of my face, then I won't respect you.

It's that simple.

Martin Luther King still apllies here. I will judge you on the content of your character, not the orientation of your sexuality.

[Dominikos]

If one was to examine the natural (animal) world, one would find rare cases of homosexuality.

Vesayen, in essence, homosexuality is not wrong, it's just not natural. To truly understand homosexuality we must look towards history and evolution. According to the natural order of things, a male and female are required for reproduction. Clearly, homosexuals cannot reproduce, which makes homosexuality unnatural. My reasoning may perhaps seem a bit infantile at first but take a moment to think.

Let us ask ourselves a question and try to think of answers:

1. What is natural? - Homosexuals are obviously a minority. Animals with "homosexual" habits must also be a minority. Is that which is in the minority not natural? Is homosexuality a deviation from the natural?

During the last few thousand years of human existence, homosexuality has been quite visible. Ex. Ancient Greece, today's Toronto or New York City. I assume that among the first humans, there must have been rare cases of homosexuality, although homosexuality back was most likely not as prevalent as it is today. Is homosexuality on the rise?

This is how I reason: If one is homosexual, they can do nothing about it and must be treated as any other human being. They must be allowed to engage in courtship, pursue relationships etc. Homosexuals are born homosexual, they must be treated with respect. However, as much as I think that homosexuals should be fully integrated into society and enjoy the same rights as heterosexuals I still do not think that homosexuality is natural.

Is there a flaw in my reasoning?

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~Dominik - Lord of the Putumayo~

[monkspider]

There is nothing wrong with homosexuality. I find it rather grand that a guy can find love in another guy. I happen to be hetero, but I wouldn't be sad if I was born homo.

[Hydey]

I know of a pair of lesbien ducks, they live at the hobby farm I dump my grass at. for 3 years now they have been unseperable and have been known to try and mate with each other . I guess if its ok for ducks to be gay then its ok for humans as well .

I'm glad I'm hetro.

[Az]

My personal opinion that this is equivalent to smoking. Some people can't tolerate doing it and one could say that this is bad for the individual (less chance of having kids , one of the primary biological goals of any being) , but noone should hate someone that does that , or change his opinion on that person because of it.

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Dominikos
1. What is natural? - Homosexuals are obviously a minority. Animals with "homosexual" habits must also be a minority. Is that which is in the minority not natural? Is homosexuality a deviation from the natural?

During the last few thousand years of human existence, homosexuality has been quite visible. Ex. Ancient Greece, today's Toronto or New York City. I assume that among the first humans, there must have been rare cases of homosexuality, although homosexuality back was most likely not as prevalent as it is today. Is homosexuality on the rise?

This is how I reason: If one is homosexual, they can do nothing about it and must be treated as any other human being. They must be allowed to engage in courtship, pursue relationships etc. Homosexuals are born homosexual, they must be treated with respect. However, as much as I think that homosexuals should be fully integrated into society and enjoy the same rights as heterosexuals I still do not think that homosexuality is natural.

Is there a flaw in my reasoning?

Yeah, I think your answer to "what is natural" is not logic. If you say "If one is homosexual, they can do nothing about it and must be treated as any other human being." - why can´t it be "natural" then? Only because a majority is not homosexual? How is being "natural" related to "are a minority/majority?"

[JohnIII]

Er, smoking can harm those around the smoker as well.

[Dry]

I don't believe in "right" or "wrong".
What is right here and now, may be wrong another day and/or in another place.

As it was said before, homosexuality do not hurt either of the partners, nor third parties, so I don't see it as "wrong"... but it does not mean I see it as "right" either... just "neutral".
And as a "neutral" behaviour, I think people should be free about it.

But maybe in some situation/time/place homosexuality is/was/will be "wrong", just as maybe in other time/situation/place it is/was/will be the "right" behaviour...

[Ecthy]

Homosexuality is technically wrong because it's counterproductive. However, world population doesn't have that strong a need for reproduction. But then, western societies do.

As long as it doesn't get overhand, it should be tolerated. Wait... it does!