Would seeing the sea part make you believe in God?

[Lung]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
What do you think? The urge to crush some creationists, of course.

Why, just yesterday i was lamenting the absence of creationist nonsense at Apolyton

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
Something cannot come from nothing, so the fact that we are here today should be proof enough that God is out there.

You aren't explaining anything. You are just repeating yourself.

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
As for physics, God can break the rules.

Stop repeating yourself over and over. A bald assertion repeated a thousand times is still a bald assertion.

[Urban Ranger]

There are also other theories about how the universe came about. There is the M-Theory (IIRC) that says something about higher dimensional membrances crashing into each other.

It does make my brain hurt

[Alexander's Horse]

The big bang is actually a good proof for a creator.

*runs*

[Bosh]

Skah! Missed the beginning, I always love these religion debates

You have to say that the universe was created because things cannot just "appear."

Why is it that all Christians seem to be completely ignorant of Quantum Dynamics? The above has been proven to be wrong thanks to our little friends known as virtual particles that do in fact just "appear."

Pherhaps outside our universe there are other laws, and something can actually pop out of nothing there.

Aaaargh Cybershy, remember our debate? How many do I need to tell you that things can pop out of nothing in this universe?

Something cannot come from nothing, so the fact that we are here today should be proof enough that God is out there.

However, unlike virtual particles and whatnot, we've never observed a god appear out of nothing. Thus God appearing out of nothing is far less likely than a universe appearing out of nothing, so the existance of the universe hardly proves the existance of a creating entities much less a god much less the god that lives in your head.

no........ is it any good?

Fairly well written, but it hasn't aged that well, seems pretty dated now...

everybody that says something else is a stupid creationist, and being a stupid creationist ruins your career

But then this wouldn't explain why the numberous christian colleges in the states couldn't do at least something to buck this, especially since they carry out real purges of non-Creationists.

pherhaps because the dating system doesn't work?

But there's multiple dating systems, strange that they all don't work so consistendly as to provide the same results.

[quote]from animals who died by burying very quickly in most cases (big flood anyone?) [/quotes]
Doesn't explain the manner in which the fossils are sorted.

[King of Rasslin]

I have to repeat myself because some people don't understand me. I am explaining it. Because nothing except God can create something from nothing (wine from water), God is the only way we can exist. Life (or the universe, for that matter) doesn't just "pop" into existence unless it is by God.

And if you say something that God can do isn't a rule of physics, then you can throw the laws of physics out the window because God can do anything!!! Just because God can do anything doesn't mean we can.

[Lung]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
The big bang is actually a good proof for a creator.

*runs*

Well, it is at least the best place for the intervention of a creator However, it remains to be seen whether such a creator could actually interact with the universe once it was created In any case, it just opens up the possibility of something creating lots of universes with different physics, none of which it could interact with

[Al B. Sure!]

Because nothing except God can create something from nothing (wine from water),

Actually, it is possible for base metals to be turned into gold with our modern technology by re-arranging atom structures, etc. but the effort and cost to do so would be far greater than the price of the produced gold.


thanks

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin

Because nothing except God can create something from nothing (wine from water).

Er isn't that actually creating something from something? (wine from water)



How old are you by the way?

[King of Rasslin]

Alchemy just doesn't work! It was tried for centuries and it didn't work, and by now we know that it is impossible. And re-arranging isn't the same as creating from nothing.

[King of Rasslin]

"How old are you by the way?"

That is violating TOS. I'm nice so I won't report you. Watch it.

[Al B. Sure!]

wine from water isnt creating from nothing...

[Bosh]

Because nothing except God can create something from nothing

Hmmm guess he didn't read my post, now I'm going to have to repeat myself again. THE ABOVE IS WRONG!

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/vacuum.html

[Lung]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
I have to repeat myself because some people don't understand me. I am explaining it. Because nothing except God can create something from nothing (wine from water), God is the only way we can exist. Life (or the universe, for that matter) doesn't just "pop" into existence unless it is by God.

And if you say something that God can do isn't a rule of physics, then you can throw the laws of physics out the window because God can do anything!!! Just because God can do anything doesn't mean we can.

How so? You are not explaining anything. God, i love fulfilling this urge! Oops, i meant Thor

Don't you see? Logically, only by being outside the universe can one be free from the physical constraints of the universe! To be part of a universe is to be constrained by it. Only proof to the contrary, or at least testable and repeatable evidence of it, can be used to argue against it. Of course, i forgot that logic never comes into the equation for you

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
"How old are you by the way?"

That is violating TOS. I'm nice so I won't report you. Watch it.

You're a tosser?

I'd say 12 and half, 13 tops.