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**Al B. Sure!** · July 17, 2002, 04:15

Why is one's soul at stake?

Easy. Because people that don't believe in God go to hell. Everyone knows that.

Why would a loving God send men to suffer in hell? Seems to be the same sort of God that would have men blow up each other...

**Skanky Burns** · July 17, 2002, 04:15

Rasslin: So the Crusades were done in the name of... what religion again?

**Al B. Sure!** · July 17, 2002, 04:16

If that is the case, then point out the Bible verse that says God encourages massacres.....

How many Philistines did Samson kill with an ass' jaw? How many did he kill when he tore down the pillars? And that was just one man from one small part of the bible...

**King of Rasslin** · July 17, 2002, 04:16

Hey, regardless of names, Allah and Yahweh are 2 totally different Gods. If they were the same, then why don't they have the same Bible? Duh!

**Alexander's Horse** · July 17, 2002, 04:17

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
"And how is that different from the Oklahoma city bombing or Waco Texas?"

Those guys were terrorists. ANY Christian that reads his Bible knows that killing people is WRONG. Simple as that. The Muslims are a whole other story, though.

Both Waco and the Oklahoma city bombing were sparked by Christian convictions not in fact much different from your own

**Al B. Sure!** · July 17, 2002, 04:19

So Christian Arabs, by calling the Christian God by the name of Allah, are not worshiping Christ?

**King of Rasslin** · July 17, 2002, 04:19

"How many Philistines did Samson kill with an ass' jaw? How many did he kill when he tore down the pillars? And that was just one man from one small part of the bible..."

The damn Philistines deserves what was coming to them, and God didn't command the Hebrews to kill every Philistine in sight. Hey, God warned them that they would pay the price if they kept disobeying Him! God was just fulfilling the prophecy. Nothing more, nothing less.

God tells us to love our neighbors as ourselves. He doesn't want us killing each other!

**Robert** · July 17, 2002, 04:19

King of Rasslin, eventhough we're on the same side, I suggest you to not make a troll out of yourself. You might end up as a quote next to CivNation.

Just be relaxed, you won't convert the poor bastards by telling them absolute things like that. Rather ask them questions about why they do believe in evolution without having any evidence.

They have no answer for that, that's pretty cool

Let them struggle with that, instead of putting up lines like 'the fact that you do not believe in God shows your ignorance!' since that'll only make them laugh at us.

Eventhough you're right

The fact that they do not believe in God does indeed show their ignorance

but don't tell them, they won't understand it anyway

CS

**aaglo** · July 17, 2002, 04:21

I have no reason to believe in god, because I'm not convinced god exists.

**Alexander's Horse** · July 17, 2002, 04:21

He might be more convincing if he actually had a rudimentary knowledge of the bible, LOL.

**Robert** · July 17, 2002, 04:23

Like you do have any knowledge of the bible, Horse Dude.
So far you show to understand as much of the bible as my 1 year old nephew understand Sesamstreet

Reading and understanding are two different things.

**King of Rasslin** · July 17, 2002, 04:24

Unfortunately, God thought leaving the creation in the Bible was evidence enough. Unfortunately, some would diagree...

And if you shape up evolution, it does appear to be a valid theory at first glance. Even second. If people struggle for years to understand it, there is no way some of these guys would...

**Al B. Sure!** · July 17, 2002, 04:28

Rasslin:

Hey, God warned them that they would pay the price if they kept disobeying Him!

Umm... And what did Bin Laden and the Taliban say was wrong with Americans and why they deserved to be killed? Oh yeah... cause we were disobeying God by our decadence and sin...

**King of Rasslin** · July 17, 2002, 04:32

Exactly! Bin Laden claims that we are sinners, but he is the bad guy. Like I said, hypocrites!

It is best to leave judgement to God.

**Al B. Sure!** · July 17, 2002, 04:35

Rasslin:

You claim Bin Laden is the bad guy, but he calls you a sinner...

It's the same thing... Christianity and Islam could be united with no real ideological or moral change... Hell, excluding eclessiatical Christianity (catholicism, anglicism, etc) and Islam (Shi'ite), the Protestant idea of a community of believers and priests with no set defined heirarchy matches well with the same Sunni system (especially today as there is no Kalif).

and leaving judgement to God? How can God love and be so harsh in his judgement?

And you didnt explain Christian Arabs calling the the God of the Trinity by the name Allah...

thanks

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