Israel is a rascist state

[Winston]

Better to risk disgusting some well-off people in Western Europe who don't know the true meaning of terror, persecution and open hostilities than to be certain of ceasing to exist as a nation.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And I assume you believe in black helicopters piloted by the UN to take over the world as well?

[Saint Marcus]

Its their country, why shouldnt they have the right to say who gets to come in and who doesnt? Just because they want to favor their own kind it doesnt mean they are evil.

So you think that apartheid is alright? Germany, Zimbabwe, Yugoslavia, South Africa...you are alright with what happened there, or is happening?

[Winston]

We know where your sympathies lie IS.

[Saint Marcus]

some well-off people in Western Europe who don't know the true meaning of terror

and you do bubba?

[Winston]

No, but I'm not disgusted.

[Saint Marcus]

So you are ok with Apartheid as it was in South Africa? Or the things going on in present day Zimbabwe?

[Winston]

No.

[Dinner]

When I went to Isreal there were several settlements where Arabs couldn't live or even go into. Non-Jews, provided they weren't Arab, could live and travel through them quite easily.

Is this racism? No, just common sense in a country were Arabs are blowing themselves up on a daily baises and in which you can't tell the "good" Arab from the "bad" Arab. I bet if your life or the lives of your loved ones was on the line some of you arm chair pundits might change your tunes.

[Imran Siddiqui]

We know where your sympathies lie IS.

And we know where your's lie.

[Saint Marcus]

Winston:

And in what way is what Israel is doing different from South Africa (back then) and Zimbabwe right now?

In Zimbabwe in particular, things seem very similar. Whites who own land their, have their land taken away and handed out to the blacks. Whites also have extreme difficulty buying land there, because of racist laws.

Replace Zimbabwe with Israel, replace whites with muslims and blacks with jews. That's the situation in Israel.


And don't start witht he "survival" argument. Currently, Jews own 41% of the westbank, and muslims own probably around 1% of land in Israel-proper. There is no threath.

[Saint Marcus]

Is this racism? No, just common sense in a country were Arabs are blowing themselves up on a daily baises and in which you can't tell the "good" Arab from the "bad" Arab. I bet if your life or the lives of your loved ones was on the line some of you arm chair pundits might change your tunes.

Funny. It's the same arugment the whites used in South Africa under Apartheid. You can't tell the good black from the bad black, so all blacks were kept out of certain cities or neighbourhoods.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Exactly Marcus (, I have to stop saying that ).

Can't tell the Good Arabs v. Bad Arabs sounds VERY racist. Kind of like the American South after reconstruction.

[Winston]

You keep painting the Arabs as victims. In my book they're the aggressor.

[chequita guevara]

Agressors usually aren't the natives.