What is the biggest mistake ever done by your country?

[Ned]

Since the way WWI ended lead to WWII, which was the worst nightmare in human history, I would have to say that America contributed to the FUBAR either by entering the war on the side of England and France, or by permitting an unjust peace.

[Inverse Icarus]

Its hard to say which one was the United States' biggest mistake, as we have made a few large ones in our day.

I'm compelled to say Clinton and his minions not taking out Osama when they had the chance, but thats just personal. thousands of lives doesn't qualify as the greatest blunder.

as soem of you have said, the A-Bombs weren't really neccessary for finishing off japan, but i still dont consider that the largest mistake, simply because it had benefits for our nation, although horrific on its own.

after seeing what happened with nukes in japan, the entire world saw how horiffic they were, and no one really wanted war to come to that. The Cold War could have been a lot worse if no one had "tested" a nuke in the field, if no one had seen the level of destruction that resulted from the blasts, the effects on human biomaterial.

slavery is obviously unjust and immoral, but I believe it aided our country greatly in the early years (there was a thread i got flamed for a while ago, dont flame me again ), so I cant really count it as the greatest mistake.

Taking the civil war to resolve the issue of slavery IS a large blunder, but i believe it had to come down to that.

America allowing the unfair peace deals after WWI? They didn't have much of a say, after all France was ranting most of the peace talks, and i believe they even wanted Germany broken up (my history is getting hazy now, just yell if im wrong).

Waiting so long to join the Allies in WW2 was a bit of a blunder, probably could have ended it quicker and may have saved millions of lives (soldiers and nazi genodidees).

So it comes down to this. I think the Greatest Mistake in American History has to be every useless "insurrection" into a country we had no reason to be in. Somalia. Nam. Korea. etc. The Cold War and the policies of Brinkmanship and the destruction of communism because of half-assed "domino theories" does not justify all the american casualities in those wars. in both cases, it was a CIVIL war, and we honestly had no right to be there. We just did it because Russia was there with open "arms"

I may have to start anothe thread on this, but I'd like to hear what a Russian (who lived in the USSR) felt about american policies, american nuclear weapons, truman doctine, etc.

I'll probably make that a thread tomorrow. whatever.

[Sloth]

Yeah Mussolini was the biggest...in particular racial laws against jews.
but also Berlusconi...is a giant blunder IMHO

[Adalbertus]

WWII, which was the worst nightmare in human history

Ned, may I remind you that the thirty years war costed a third of Germany's population (war actions + spread of diseases)?

[Nubclear]

Pardon me for any atrocities that I shall commit, but this post really bugged me.

we are hated because every1 is jealous of our supremecy.

That's what we always say when someone says America is hated. The excuse is getting so old...

When we were fighting the Russkies they were the bad guys, they invaded small nations and we defended them by sending them suplies.

We also overturned democratic government and replaced them with military dictators which opress their people because the democratically elected presidents were beginning to show favortism in the Soviet Union. Or for whatever other reasons we needed.

We aren't the goody doers that we think we are. And the Soviets werent completly evil, despite what we think.

Now those supplies are used against us because we are the big scary superpower,

Yeah. But you do have to remember, we created these knowing full well that they would become terrorists. We unleashed the weapon at our own risk, just because we didnt like the Soviet Union. And now were getting burned for it and frankly I'm not that surprised.

1. Give them what they want (Death to America, death to freedom, establishment of supreme Muslim theocracies worldwide)

We didn't seem to care about other countries (Mainly African) becoming Muslim theocracies, so why do we care now? Maybe because they wont fire on the Soviet Union, but this time they will us.

option 2 is the only logical option.

Kill "them" all? "Them" wouldn't be muslims, would they?

[RGBVideo]

Ryti-Ribbentrop in early 1944.

Who the hell is so idiotical that believes that Nazi's would've win the war in 1944?

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

SKILORD: I removed all the icky green stuff... I would´ve posted it in the other thread but Ming was a bit too quick for me...

Now THIS in the context of the recent talk about the girl's picture and penises... just seems wrong.

Yep, but I had to get my mind of the fact that I´m drooling over a girl half my age...

[SKILORD]

You mistake muslims with terrorists. they aren't the same thing.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Adalbertus

Ned, may I remind you that the thirty years war costed a third of Germany's population (war actions + spread of diseases)?

Yeah, that was bad too. Once upon a time, there also was a fellow name Atilla, and then there was that bloke name Tamerlame. Both were walking nightmares.

But WWII was the worst in history for loss of life and the deliberate destruction of civilian populations.

[Ned]

Originally posted by UberKruX
America allowing the unfair peace deals after WWI? They didn't have much of a say, after all France was ranting most of the peace talks, and i believe they even wanted Germany broken up (my history is getting hazy now, just yell if im wrong).

The alternative mistake was our getting into that war in the first place. Most of us agree that without us getting into the war, there probably would have been a negotiated peace in 1918 regardless - but of a much different nature.

[Sandman]

Yes, Germany would have been completely gutted.

[Ned]

So, Sandman, Wilson was a temporizer?

[Faboba]

I'd have to say the worst thing my country did was two fold. first we let the English take over and rape our country of some of it's culture and most of it's resources and then we have the sheer stupidity to start going all nationalist and 'devolutionary' about it NOW. When all the oil in the north sea is gone.

When it was there and we could have made money from it ourselves rather than it funding England was one thing. But now that it's all more or less tapped out there's no fucking point in trying to break away NOW. That's just thick.

[Faboba]

Originally posted by Kamrat X


Another pic, just for you...

Can you explain to me why all the interviews are in dutch?!?!

I didn't learn French so I would be rendered unable to comprehend what une fille française is saying because it's in dutch!


On a sidenote : Can Siro speak French? If not - she's MINE! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Serb]

Originally posted by UberKruX
I may have to start anothe thread on this, but I'd like to hear what a Russian (who lived in the USSR) felt about american policies, american nuclear weapons, truman doctine, etc.

What do I felt?
One word- S H I T. Policies, weapons, doctrine- S H I T.
****e and bull****e stories.
Do you expected other answer?

Have a nice day.