SHOOTING AT L.A. Airpot! Late breaking news!

[Solver]

Terrorist can also operate alone - separatism.

Can I get to know somewhere the time it happened?

[KrazyHorse]

Sikander, why isn't it just a hate crime?

Or are all gay-bashings, lynchings and race riots also examples of terrorism?

[Sikander]

I suppose that definition works as well, though the suicidal nature of the attack seems to indicate that the attacker was hoping to achieve an objective which was worth more than his own life. In my opinion most hate crimes are conducted against helpless targets for the amusement and / or aggrandizement of the perpetrators. Getting killed isn't usually part of the plan, as it cuts down considerably on bragging time. This one has more of a Jihad flavor. Legally I imagine it could be prosecuted either way, though any prosecution would obviously only involve a co-conspirator.

[KrazyHorse]

Lots of mad gunmen are suicidal in nature. I thought an American would be so used to it he'd have realised that by now.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Lots of mad gunmen are suicidal in nature. I thought an American would be so used to it he'd have realised that by now.

True enough, though usually they go after people they know or places that they are really familiar with, often work or school. I doubt this guy had a workplace grievance against El Al. I'm not confident enough with the apparent facts of this matter to comfortably place it in any particular category yet, though the odds are pointing toward an attack in sympathy with the Jihad against Israel. I would call that terrorism as it would be action meant to terrorize in order to achieve a political goal. The action may well be simultaneously political and racist.

[KrazyHorse]

I'm holding off judgment too, actually. What the man's original nationality told me was basically that it being El Al was almost certainly not an accident.

Did any of the rest of you know that July 4 was also the man's birthday?

Interesting set of coincidences we have here...

[The Mad Monk]

I just heard on the radio that the feds are now saying that the man was "offended by the open displays of American patriotism", if that makes any sense at all (dosen't really, to me).

[Sirotnikov]

A wittness claims that the gunman wore an el-al badge and yelled something about losing his workplace.

Someone claimed that he used to work for El-Al , but that is unlikely given that El-Al employs Israelis.


As far as "being offended by American patriotism" well I guess it's against Allah to display the American flag.

It's the most stupid arguement and it's sad that I know that some unversalist lefties buy into this.

[Eli]

Is it true he was carrying a Koran with him?

[Sirotnikov]

I dunno

I only know he had tons and tons of clips.

[Bereta_Eder]

so much for american "security"

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by paiktis22
so much for american "security"

It is still better than the "security" at Athens International.

[Bereta_Eder]

You wish.

[Bereta_Eder]

poeple are not getting killed in the Athens Airport.

Unlike in the US.

Actually there should be an EU directive disadvicing people from travelling to such a dangerous place as america has become

[The Mad Monk]

Please.