A note of thanks to the USA from one of the more grateful Europeans.

[Dis]

I'm not saying America is responsible for the rise of power of Hitler. That is the fault of german politicians.

But think about it. What if Germany had taken large areas of france and "won" WW1?

[Jaakko]

And I'll add that the alliance we had was purely militarily and historically (ie. WW1 vintage) motivated.
The ideological separation is usually the reason why Finns don't prefer the term alliance.

[Akka]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Americans fought in the Spanish Civil War.

So did Frenchs, Russians, Englishs, and countless others from countless other nations.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Jaakko
We never really toed the Nazi line

I never said that you did or how well you carried your end of the deal. I mearly stated that an alliance did exist and the Finish contingent started to get huffy like I had shamed them or something.

Then there was the '43-'44 affair, where we cheated the Germans out of crucial war materiel so we could affor to finally negotiate a separate peace with the Soviets.

For all intents and purposes the alliance between you two ended in 1943 when Finland started secret peace negotiations with the Soviets. So that really doesn't suprise me.

[Ming]

To anybody outside the US that want's to wish us well on the anniversary of the birth of our nation... thanks..

To those that want to abuse us... fine too, your "opinion" and you are welcome to it, that's what free speech is all about... I just don't have to listen to it today... tommorrow is soon enough...

So Happy Birthday USA... And thanks to all the countries that have ever helped the USA in the past, and those that will in the future. We wouldn't be what we are without you!

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Akka le Vil
So did Frenchs, Russians, Englishs, and countless others from countless other nations.

He didn't ask about why Spain should thank Frenchs, Russians, Englishs, and countless others from countless other nations.

[Pekka]

dinodoc, we were not allied. we were cobelligrent.

[Saint Marcus]

Merci Ming. You're a credit to your nation.

And happy b-day to your country.

Or the 13 original states at least. Does Texas has it's own b-day, considering it was once an independent country?

[Space05us]

hehe, this reminds me of school. everyone has thier little group that hates everyone elses group until the big game rolls around, then the entire school is on the same side.

[Jaakko]

Dino, I'm just educating your trollified ass. Consider it a blessing.

Edit: and look at my previous post for an explanation on the huffiness.

[Saint Marcus]

He didn't ask about why Spain should thank Frenchs, Russians, Englishs, and countless others from countless other nations.

The Spanish shouldn't thank anyone really. It wasn't the US who got rid of Franco. In fact, it supported Franco at various instances.

My point is, that "Europe" as a whole shouldn't thank the US for fighting in WW2. A lot of European nations weren't in the war, or didn't benifit from US involvement (Like many eastern european nations, who simply traded one group of oppressors for another due to the war).

[Ming]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
Does Texas has it's own b-day, considering it was once an independent country?

With Texans, you never know. They take pride in everything Texan... But then again, that's the spirit of the people there, and you can't fault them for that.

Thanks for the kind words... On a day like today, I just want to be with family and friends (and I have a whole house full of them.. and my cig breaks give me an excuse to see what is happening in the world of Apolyton)

Peace folks... may we never see another WW again.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Considering the fact that you were allied with the Nazis, I would agree with you.

They weren't allied with the Nazi's. It wasd more of a " an enemy of my friend is my enemy deal".

Russia invade Finland. Germans weren't even there. I read quite a bit about this battle when I was younger, and I have to admit that the Finns fought brilliantly for quite a while.

[Saint Marcus]

You bet.

Have a nice day.

[Jaakko]

GROUP HUG!!!



Personally, I'm just happy when I get to yak about Finland to furriners.