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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jack the Bodiless
    Turning water into wine?
    Parting seas?
    Raising the dead?
    Summoning a plague of locusts?
    Turning sticks into snakes?
    Only God has the right to do magic because he is God. He is the all-powerful. If it hadn't been for God's powers the universe would have never existed.
    HAVE A DAY.
    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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    • #17
      OOO...I have a brilliant idea!

      Change your location from "Poll Master" to "Troll Master."
      "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
      ^ The Poly equivalent of:
      "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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      • #18
        Only God has the right to do magic because he is God. He is the all-powerful. If it hadn't been for God's powers the universe would have never existed.
        so god is omnibenevolent. That means that his actions are good. God does magic. Everything God does is good. Ergo, magic is good.
        ku eshte shpata eshte feja
        Where the Sword is, There lies religion

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
          OOO...I have a brilliant idea!

          Change your location from "Poll Master" to "Troll Master."
          That is so extremist. I could tell you the same thing, but I'm not gonna. All you wanna do is persecute Christians. That is so sad.
          HAVE A DAY.
          <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
          "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
          For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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          • #20
            Harry Potter is evil and LOTR is übermensch nazi claptrap... Yeah, right...
            I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Thucydides
              so god is omnibenevolent. That means that his actions are good. God does magic. Everything God does is good. Ergo, magic is good.
              Take a look at this: http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-occult.html
              HAVE A DAY.
              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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              • #22
                Wasn't this an article in The Onion a while back? It's funnier when it's taken serious though!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cloud9
                  All you wanna do is persecute Christians. That is so sad.
                  All we want is for "Christians" to get their heads out of some ancient middle-astern superstition. Magic doesn't exist. Hence it isn't a threat and can't be bad.

                  How do you feel about C.S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia?
                  John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                  • #24
                    Three other great British authors of the 20th century, J.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and Aldous Huxley attained fame for works of ficion by writing works that contain elements of magic which could be construed as paganistic, or at least anti-christian. Tolkien's works describe a detailed Pantheon of Gods and demonic figures. C.S. Lewis's Narnia books frequently invoke magic, and have an animal, Aslan the lion, as the penultimate god-figure. Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" seemingly glorifies an atheistic future world devoid of morals in which little children are actually encouraged to explore their sexuality.

                    Ironically these three men were charter members of a society at Oxford University which had as it's goal the re-establishment of Christian faith and ethics in a collegiate community which they saw as having become increasingly materialistic and anti-christian. Lewis in particular gained equal fame as the author of numerous works on the role of Christianity in the modern age.

                    Evidently writing about witches and magic don't make a person a pagan, nor are all tales that concern them necessarily anti-christian.
                    "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                    • #25
                      Hey Cloud9, here's a chilling story detailing what happens to those exposed to the occult of Harry Potter (and D&D):




                      Horrible innit?
                      "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
                      - Lone Star

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                      • #26
                        Aeson:

                        That's what I thought it was going to be, but no...this is a different article. Pity. The Onion one was great...

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                        • #27
                          Assume for the moment that magic exists.

                          Assume also that God exists.








                          Phew. I did it. Now...

                          A kid reads a book that happens to discuss magic. The kid has the desire to become a wizard or whatever (I never read Harry Potter, I don't know what I'm talking about).

                          Now assume his parents taught him at a very young age what is right and what is wrong. The kid realizes that using magic could be wrong and decides its best to avoid it altogether.

                          The use of magic is averted. God is happy. And freedom of expression was not denied to those who have it.

                          Why? Because of good parenting. Good parenting can solve more problems then we know.

                          Burning books, ie destroying knowledge and encouraging ignorance, solves nothing, ever.

                          And now I can go back to my world devoid of magic and god. Ahh, so much more comfortable...
                          Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                          "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                          • #28
                            Cloud9, with all due respect and seriousness, would you kindly get a life?
                            "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                            "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Guynemer
                              Cloud9, with all due respect and seriousness, would you kindly get a life?
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #30
                                I wonder what Cloud thinks about RPGs. He wouldn't know about the really cool stuff like Unknown Armies or Delta Green (nudge nudge wink wink), but surely he's heard about Dungeons & Dragons.

                                So how 'bout it dude?
                                "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
                                - Lone Star

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