Arafat Calls for Democratic Elections in the United States

[NY Hoya]

Originally posted by Ignorance Oh yeah. The old "He is criticizing our goverment, he must therefore be a commie!" -routine.

But no. I actually like when the candidates who get the more votes than others win.

The commie bit was a joke, hence the

George W. got more votes than AlWhore. The Electoral votes are the only relevant votes.

[NY Hoya]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus what century do you live in?

And what is your opinion of the electoral system?

Isn't it so....1800s?

The 21st, of course. The commie bit was a joke. I think the electoral system is flawed, but better than a straight one man one vote system.

[Victor Galis]

George W. got more votes than AlWhore. The Electoral votes are the only relevant votes

-Why are the people irrelevant? The Electoral college gave a disproportionate share of votes to small states, which is the only thing that allowed Dubbya's narrow win.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by NY Hoya


Trash, contemptible trash. You know that's a load of tripe. That or perhaps you're a commie.

You´re pretty cocky for a settler with 0 posts.

[Victor Galis]

I think the electoral system is flawed, but better than a straight one man one vote system.

-What's wrong with one man, one vote. Could we at least cut each state's electoral votes by 2 so that at least the electoral votes are determined solely by population of a state?

[Saint Marcus]

sounds a lot like Iraq, or some other third world nations.

"the [fill in the gap] votes are the only relevant votes"


and you think that's right? weird idea of fair you have. Most people voted for Gore, yet he lost, and you think that's fine?

[NY Hoya]

Originally posted by Victor Galis -Oh... I've been complaining about the electoral college since before this election. This only fed me a good example of what was wrong with it.

point taken. I assume you don't have U.S. citizenship. Get it and your opinion will matter.

[Saint Marcus]

You´re pretty cocky for a settler with 0 posts.

*does the DL dance*

[Victor Galis]

To be fair, it was only more people for Gore, thanks to Nader who made sure neither candidate would get over 50%.

[Saint Marcus]

I assume you don't have U.S. citizenship. Get it and your opinion will matter.

actually it does't. That's why Bush won and not Gore. The people who held that precious US citizenship didn't have much say in it.

[NY Hoya]

Originally posted by Victor Galis -Why are the people irrelevant? The Electoral college gave a disproportionate share of votes to small states, which is the only thing that allowed Dubbya's narrow win.

I'm sure you're aware of the reasons for the electoral college. Basically, it prevents the coasts from deciding U.S. policy, protects the voice of the smaller states, etc. If not for the college, presidential candidates wouldn't campaign anywhere other than California, New York, Texas, Florida, and a handful of other states.

[Victor Galis]

point taken. I assume you don't have U.S. citizenship. Get it and your opinion will matter.

-You are correct... the application is sitting on my bed, where I left it before I fled the country in a hurry... I mean, left for my study abroad trip

[NY Hoya]

Originally posted by Kamrat X
You´re pretty cocky for a settler with 0 posts.

so what?

[joseph1944]

After the New Papers did the recount, Bush still won with a 200 or so vote margin. What Gore wanted was a dimble on the page to count as a vote. In Calif. a hanging tab is no good. The vote will not count. Must be a clean hole in the ballot.
The New Paper than did a dimble count (a mark on the ballot and not a hole in the ballot) and Gore won by around 400 and some. The FL. law in place at the time said hanging tabs did not count.

[Victor Galis]

I'm sure you're aware of the reasons for the electoral college.

-Yes, because people are stupid. (that is the people who still keep it). It also makes sure that when I become a US citizen, my vote will not count, unless I first move to a different state.

Basically, it prevents the coasts from deciding U.S. policy, protects the voice of the smaller states, etc. If not for the college, presidential candidates wouldn't campaign anywhere other than California, New York, Texas, Florida, and a handful of other states.

-How so? Every vote would be as good as every other vote. Now only votes in states that are close count.