Except that the German anthem starts at the line about Unity, rights, and freedom.
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Originally posted by BeBro
We don´t use the first part anymore....That's the best part.
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Originally posted by Roland
The original is "Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser" by Haydn, around 1800.
Essentially the austrian version of "God save the King/Queen".
Then Fallersleben came around and stole the song."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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You missed a verse
Translation:
Germany, Germany over all
Over all the world
When Germany unites fraternally
In protection and defiance
From the Maas to the Memel,
From the Etsch to the Belt
Germany, Germany over all
Over all the world.
German women, German faithfulness,
German wine, and German song
German concentration camps, German tanks
We'll rule the world before too long!
German women, German faithfulness,
German wine, and German song!
Unity, rights, and freedom
For the German fatherland!
That is what we shall all strive for,
as brothers we are, with heart and hand.
Unity, rights, and freedom
Are our guarantee of happiness.
In the sunshine of this triad,
Thrive, our German Fatherland [/QUOTE]Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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Re: You missed a verse
Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Translation:
Germany, Germany over all
Over all the world
When Germany unites fraternally
In protection and defiance
From the Maas to the Memel,
From the Etsch to the Belt
Germany, Germany over all
Over all the world.
German women, German faithfulness,
German wine, and German song
German concentration camps, German tanks
We'll rule the world before too long!
German women, German faithfulness,
German wine, and German song!
Unity, rights, and freedom
For the German fatherland!
That is what we shall all strive for,
as brothers we are, with heart and hand.
Unity, rights, and freedom
Are our guarantee of happiness.
In the sunshine of this triad,
Thrive, our German Fatherland
These are the changes you propose?Blah
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"Are you sure it wasn't originally written as a lullabye for the crown prince of Austria as a birthday present?"
I've read that it was written to shore up patriotism in the face of old Napsi. Not quite the Marsaillaise though....
Would make a nice lullabye anyway....
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You'd think after two world wars that we'd know better than to want to go to war with Germany. I mean, come on, lets invade a country with good looking women. But I guess that's mean. German women need "liberating" too I guess.To us, it is the BEAST.
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Originally posted by Victor Galis
-Umm... how does one associate Advance Australia Fair (that's the anthem right?) with anything inhumane.
-Yes, it is so nationalist to strive for unity, justice, and freedomNow, La Marseillaise on the other hand... but that's why I love that song
Do you just argue with me for arguments sake, considering you didn't actually argue against the points I was making?Tutto nel mondo è burla
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No more so than you can associate the current German anthem with anything inhumane, which was my point.
Do you just argue with me for arguments sake, considering you didn't actually argue against the points I was making?Don't mind me, I'm just sleep deprived.
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I voted for "yes, bananatune". I think they should get their own anthem and give us our anthem back.
AH: The anthem is from early 19th century and from Austria, and the tune is not more militaristic than other anthems. And the German text is definitely not more warlike/unfriendly than the French anthem ("Formez vos bataillons") or Britain's "knavish tricks" to "confuse their politics"...
"The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
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18th Century, Wernazuma. Hadyn wrote it in the late 1700s. And it wasn't meant as an Austrian tune, it was meant for the German people as a whole. Since Germany is now the standard-bearer of the Germans (and many Austrians will bristle at being associated with Germans), I think their use of the melody is perfectly fine.Tutto nel mondo è burla
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