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  • #46
    1. You are grabbed from behind. The attacker puts you in a choking hold.
    First of all, I'm assuming a proper choke.

    First thing you do, no matter what your fighting style is, is to tuck your chin into your chest as much as possible. If you're fast enough, he will not be able to get a choke at all, and even if not the strength of his choke will be diminished.

    From here, there's a few things you can do. The first one is to heel kick him in the groin, although this is a little iffy depending on where he is standing - if he's doing this correctly, it won't work. The next thing you can do, if you are wearing heavy shoes, is raise one of your legs and scrape your heel down his shin as hard as you can to create pain. Once his grip begins to loosen, grab his wrist with one hand and reach under his arm with the other. Immediately thereafter, what you want to do is to hip throw him (which I won't bother describing in writing). Make sure you retain control of his arm once he's on the ground, and fall back into an armbar, and break his arm. If he still needs subduing, which is unlikely, feel free to take one hand, press on his cheek and chin so that his head is pinned to the ground, and hit him as many times as desired in the side of the head/face with either an elbow (preferable) or with what is known as a palm strike. Don't hit him with your fist unless it is unavoidable.

    Another approach is to reach back and gouge at his eyes, which may or may not be effective. If you miss, you are really in trouble because now he has control of your arms.

    A further solution one can try is elbows into his kidneys, if the positioning is right, followed up by the technique I described above.

    The final thing to do, and this is what I would prefer to do, is as follows:
    Tuck my chin and grab his arm with both hands, pinning it against my chest in such a way as he can't choke me and can't draw it back.
    Use leverage to push off his arm and turn into him, keeping my head down. Optimally, I will end up with my head tucked behind one shoulder pushing into his chest, although it is also acceptable to be face to face with him.
    From there, I would use a Muay Thai/BJJ technique to close any remaining distance and gain the inside - meaning my arms are on the inside of his, preferably grabbing up the back of his neck.
    At this point, I would probably knee him in the groin to double him over a little bit, followed up by repeated knees to the head.
    If he knew how to fight, and avoided knees, I would instead go for a basic front takedown, and work grappling against him, because most people are not skilled ground fighters.
    My final option, if he was defending against a takedown, would be to head butt him in the face and push away from him, creating space in which I could work either boxing or thai boxing.

    Somebody chokes you with both hands from the front.
    First of all, anyone who does this is stupid beyond belief.
    All you have to do to avoid this ridiculous choke is to push both your arms up between his, and push outwards with your forearms while grabbing up the back of his neck. Once his grip is loosened, step back with one foot while pulling his head down as hard as you can. Once his head is down, follow it up with a knee to the head with the foot you stepped back with, and repeat as necessary.

    In this situation, eye gouging is also a possibility, but I wouldn't do it because it is easy for your attacker to evade, and even if he lets go it's worse for you. Here's why. If someone is front choking you, they are being stupid. You are in control of the situation because you know it is hard to choke someone out from that position, but very easy to get out of the choke and control the attacker, ending the fight. If you let them out of this situation, without causing damage, you have no idea what they will do next - they might do something right, and hurt you. Might as well let them think they are in control for the 1 second it takes to start the technique I described. It's all downhill for them from there.
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    • #47
      I still say shoot him with my DE....
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #48
        If he's got you from behind, easy. Grab the back of his neck with your arm and lean with your back downward so they sllllllide right on down to the ground on your back.
        True, but if he is competent at all - which you should always assume he is - he will be much more dangerous in this position. In Jiujitsu, it is known as taking someone's back, and is a situation you never want to get into.
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        • #49
          Sava -

          Well, this is mainly for the poor Europeans who aren't allowed to have handguns
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          • #50
            DF, you're too complicated...

            Hit him hard enough to make him let you go, then some nice easy standing takedown (hip toss or fireman if you're feeling man enough), and put your boots into him as many times as necessary...
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            • #51
              DF, you're too complicated...
              Hit him hard enough to make him let you go, then some nice easy standing takedown (hip toss or fireman if you're feeling man enough), and put your boots into him as many times as necessary...
              Actually that's sorta what I said. On the first one, though, if they are doing it right, it will be hard to hit them a couple times and make them let go before you can choke them out.
              As to the second one, the approach I gave is definitely the most effective - if someone is trying to front choke you why go to the ground at all when you can finish them with knees to the head?
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              • #52
                You don't go to ground. Stay standing...

                People with no wrestling/similar experience are like limp fish. You can throw them whichever way you want...
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                • #53
                  Causing permanent damage to the guy who wants to steal your wallet? Krav Maga is for combat situations.
                  Hell, I see no problem really hurting someone who tries to steal your wallet. Maybe next time he won't try to rob someone. Training in ways of being gentle will just result in you getting your ass kicked, because you fight like you train. One of my instructors (a former Marine DI) always says that, and I think it's true.
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                  • #54
                    You don't go to ground. Stay standing...
                    People with no wrestling/similar experience are like limp fish. You can throw them whichever way you want...
                    Yes, very true. If that's more your style, go for that. To me, what I described is much simpler for the front choke situation - I'm a better striker than grappler.
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                    • #55
                      Hell, I see no problem really hurting someone who tries to steal your wallet. Maybe next time he won't try to rob someone. Training in ways of being gentle will just result in you getting your ass kicked, because you fight like you train. One of my instructors (a former Marine DI) always says that, and I think it's true


                      If I have the choice between losing my wallet and hurting someone seriously, I'd let them have my wallet.
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                      • #56
                        I'd rather keep the money.
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                        • #57
                          That's because you're an

                          Evil Capitalist Conservative


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                          • #58
                            Completely depends on what you mean by a "choking hold."

                            then some nice easy standing takedown
                            Why a standing takedown? That usually requires much more force than a single or double leg takedown, particularly with bigger guys.
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                            • #59
                              Describe the choking hold of your choice
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                              • #60
                                If I have the choice between losing my wallet and hurting someone seriously, I'd let them have my wallet.
                                Not me

                                Why a standing takedown? That usually requires much more force than a single or double leg takedown, particularly with bigger guys.
                                That is true, but single/double leg takedowns are risky, as well, in that if your opponent picks up on the takedown, they can sprawl on top of you, or, more seriously, knee you in the face on the way down. Also, they can drop elbows and, if you're not careful, catch you in a guillotine choke. Standing takedowns, whether a throw, sweep, or body takedown, are much safer, in that you don't generally expose your head to attack.
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