Supreme Court Rules Vouchers to Be Constitutional!

[faded glory]

I have lots of radical idea's about school anyway. I wonder if anyone shares these.


School should end at 16. After 16 you've learned most of the basics. At this point, all a normal person wants to do is get a job, work at your pace and towards a career and chase members of the opposite sex. So why does this need to happen in High school?


I say, get them out of the high-school and into a Tech school adult lecture envirmoment that teaches them life skills, introduction to college, and have them choose a career path at take some introduction courses. After that its there choice if they want to leave at the age of 18 or continue, with school, or make the leap to college.


pretty crazy huh?

[Jon Miller]

most private schools will accept you if you do not have a history of trouble

yes, this is a limitation, but one which is within their rights

there are also a lot of fairly cheap private schools which would be in the price range of a poor family with vouchers (if education was important to them)

Jon Miller

[Victor Galis]

How would vouchers (which give poor kids the chance to go to private schools) do this? Please explain.....

-Truly poor kids would have no chance to find a private school with this little money, only people almost rich enough for private school would benefit... along with rich families who would get money back for the same education as before.

Point is you dont need to throw even more money at a system that spends 2700 per head . Money is not the problem apparently

-Do you realize how ridiculously little that is. If you maintain say a 20:1 student to teachers ratio, that doesn't even pay the teachers enough.

There's no point in making the deficit any bigger for vouchers.

[Victor Galis]

I have lots of radical idea's about school anyway. I wonder if anyone shares these.

-Those of us who still remember school probably don't.

School should end at 16. After 16 you've learned most of the basics. At this point, all a normal person wants to do is get a job, work at your pace and towards a career and chase members of the opposite sex. So why does this need to happen in High school?

-No, that's a person who doesn't want to get anywhere in life. I had most of my more interesting courses after the age of 16, and I certainly would not have wanted to or been able to go out on my own at 16. I don't think a 16 year old should be trusted with a driver's liscence.

I say, get them out of the high-school and into a Tech school adult lecture envirmoment that teaches them life skills, introduction to college, and have them choose a career path at take some introduction courses. After that its there choice if they want to leave at the age of 18 or continue, with school, or make the leap to college.

-Why break the system even further?

there are also a lot of fairly cheap private schools which would be in the price range of a poor family with vouchers (if education was important to them)

-ROTFLMAO... riiight

[Jon Miller]

Victor

Teacers in Public school get paid 1.5 times those in private school

that is not the issue (even though I agree that they need paid more)

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Victor Galis


-ROTFLMAO... riiight

that was from person expereince

so at least in Oregon it is true

(and BTW, I beleive that you were one of the lucky few who had a good high school, most do not, so I do not think it is your place to doom them)

Jon Miller

[faded glory]

hey job i replied.....im wating for your response. I need some setup info yet.

[chequita guevara]

How about making it like the financial aid system for college? You have to apply for it and it is disbursed based upon need.

[Victor Galis]

that was from person expereince

so at least in Oregon it is true

-Private schools around where I live go for about £(pretend that's a dollar sign, I have an English keyboard)12,000/year. No way in hell a poor family can afford that. Heck, my mom couldn't afford to send me there.

(and BTW, I beleive that you were one of the lucky few who had a good high school, most do not, so I do not think it is your place to doom them)

-That I had a good school is an understatement. We liked to laugh at the private schools whose asses we regularly kicked in academic competitions.

[Guynemer]

Count on the "godless communist" to make sense. Shouldn't you be out purging people or something?

[Victor Galis]

Or how about we not bankrupt the country, che. If the demand for private schools increased that dramatically so would the price.

[Guynemer]

Hey, if they want their vouchers, they ought to be fair about it. Need-based financial aid--subsidized and unsubsidized loans, work-study, grants--would allow people to leave failing school systems, and it would provide equal opportunities (or, actually, as close as we can get, which ain't that close) for all students. If they want vouchers, they ought to do the right thing; no more half-measures and lip service.

Or, they could actually try to fix the public school system. But what sense does that make?

[Victor Galis]

Anyway... going to see if I can play some rugby, other people need to use this computer to type their Art Papers of Death^TM.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by GP
Those people are already in disasterous schools...

I hardly think that dropping significant amounts of funding and increasing public apathy toward their situation will help them any...

Public schools, where I live, have problems but are not even close to disastrous.

[Ramo]

If we had a real voucher system that gives genuine opportunity to the poor, I would support it. Like if we expanded FAFSA to secondary schools.

However, half-assed programs only draw richer kids and their good grades (and disproportionate funding) from the public system.