World Cup 2002 - A crappy story...

[JohnIII]

Look, the second 'goal' would not have been scored even if the linesman had said the ball was in, because the keeper would have saved it.

[MarkG]

i dont think the keeper was watching for the linesman to make a decision at the time

[SnowFire]

Ah, the glory of international forums. I never knew quite how strong the tradition of whining was! I mean, some whining ("The Hand of God") is acceptable, but everytime somebody gets eliminated? Come on, there can only be 1 World Cup champion, so in all likelihood your team will be defeated by somebody else. In a tournament, somebody has to lose... and it doesn't require an anti-Europe conspiracy to insure that almost every European team loses! They'll almost all lose anyway (and if a non-European team wins it, they all do!)!

[MarkG]

snowfire, there's no smoke without a fire i dont think there was much of what you call "whining" after the england-brazil or germany-usa matches, simply because the outcome was fair

[Giancarlo]

I am no longer angry... I am just upset and down.

I hope this gets resolved fairly because it has been anything BUT fair.

Italy and Spain were unfairly thrown out by idiotic referees. That is deeply depressing. Has game fixing become a standard?

[Keygen]

Originally posted by SnowFire
Come on, there can only be 1 World Cup champion, so in all likelihood your team will be defeated by somebody else. In a tournament, somebody has to lose...

Wow, you know so much about football!
Does really someone has to lose for the other one to win? Wow, I didn't know that! Thanks for letting me know about it

[Wernazuma III]

I'm not really good with authorities in real life, but I completely agree with Mark's arguments on page 1 of this thread. It seems to be an accepted new FIFA rule to say that good teams who don't play well are not allowed to score

No matter how bad the Portuguese, Italians and Spanish played: The only reason why South Korea is still in are the bad referees, or better said: the bribed linesmen

[Keygen]

Originally posted by SnowFire

and it doesn't require an anti-Europe conspiracy to insure that almost every European team loses!

Yes, it does
That's all the fuzz about.
With the exeption that it wasn't an anti-Europe conspiracy but rather the fact that Korea was favored.

It just happened that European teams faced that fact.
The same would have happened if non-European teams had faced Korea instead and I surely would have post this thread no matter who would had faced the same fate.

France, England, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, Russia, Ireland, Slovenia, Poland, Croatia are all European teams that fairly lost and went home. Nobody complained. All the fuzz is for the teams that faced Korea.

So cut the bull because the rest teams won their qualification with their value and it's a disgrace that they will face a team that didn't...

[Giancarlo]

I admit Spain and Italy had much better years.... but South Korea was no match and shouldn't even be playing now. I say launch an investigation into this and you idiots who say "Oh nothing is wrong" will be stunned at what kind of crap they would find. Pay-offs the Koreans made, fixing... etc.

[Shadowstrike]

As much as I'd like to see Korea have a shot at the Cup (pulling it away from European and South American domination, ) I have to say that Spain got the short end of the stick. Their two disallowed goals were legitimate, and either one would have won them the game, which was lost on penalty kicks. Although I wouldn't blame bribed refs, but rather on their inability to see each play accurately, and a decision made on a lack of complete evidence.

[thinkingamer]

Did Corea win clean? yes.

Did Corea deserve to win? yes. (even tough they sucked, they fought hard)

Did Corea played better than Spain? no. Anyone who saw the game can tell that Corean team was weaker than the Spanish one.

Was the referre bribed by Corea? I dont know, but there is no such evidence.

Did the referre commit mistakes? IMO while many of the "mistakes" could be a mistake or not, but the second "possible goal" for Spain was truly a mistake. But is this a Corean fault? Well, yes if the Coreans bribed the referre.

[JCG]

We'll see if you're right on Tuesday....