World Cup 2002 - A crappy story...

[Keygen]

Originally posted by JohnIII

So who refereed their qualification matches, then? They had to be serious referees, surely, but they couldn't be African or Asian, because they don't have good referees.

I can imagine some African and Asian countries with tradition in football having good referees but I doubt that Uganda or Trinidad can have better referees than Europe or South America.

[Keygen]

Originally posted by Flubber
Hmmm

On the telecast i saw, both of the "clear goals" were offside. They did a slo-mo replay and it was crystal clear that the Spanish player was offside. IIRC in one of them, 2 players were offside. Last I checked, offside is a universal rule and not specially created to screw European teams

I disagree. Both goals where clear.
Besides they were not wistled as offsite.
The first was wistled as offencive foul and the second as out.

[Keygen]

Originally posted by Flubber


At a world cup, I suspect they would prefer tp go by the rules-- Can you imagine the protest if a goal was scored 30 seconds after the end of time if the rules are as clear as JohnIII indicates on this point ??

You're right but as long as it happens in all games and not some...

[Carolus Rex]

About the second goal that was cancelled.

The referee made a bad call; it was cancelled because he thought the ball was over the line (and hence not for off-side), which it clearly was not.

However, the whistle came early and the Korean goalie stopped playing! If you watch the replays he is very well positioned and could easily have saved the header.

Too bad he didn't. That would have saved us from what surely will be a Spanish outcry à l'Italia...

BTW, did Spain support Blatter or not?

Carolus

[Keygen]

Originally posted by yin26
To some of these sore losers, rules don't matter. A waning European delusion of grandeur, however, seems unbearable.

Boy, I thing you're loosing it
First, we have been kicking your arce in football for ages.
Second, I team up with Brazil and not Europe. The only team that would make me see it equally with Brazil was Italy but they are out

So now before you jump into illusionary concusions go and see the two Spanish goals if they were clear and if that would have taken them to the semi-finals.

Korea is a good team and if those two Spanish goals hadn't been scored I would congratulate you.
I like Korea much but if I were you I wouldn't enjoy my team's winning so much...

And as I said I enjoyed Senegal and they fairly kicked the arse of France and Sweden
I would like to had seen South Africa and Argentina in the 16 as well just to let you know that I don't blindy keep up with everything that is Europe.

[Keygen]

Originally posted by Carolus Rex
BTW, did Spain support Blatter or not?

Obviously not

[MarkG]

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/en/t/rf/28016.html - a lot of experience

according to that page he played 5 games in 2001 and none in 2002

btw

Referee since 1 January 1990
First International: Pakistan : Jordan (10 April 1988)

so he first started playing as a ref and then he actually became one?!?!?!?

more data please....

[Angelo Scotto]

Originally posted by Angelo Scotto SEVERAL DAYS AGO!!!
...What about celebrating every goal of Spain (they'll come, the only doubt is if the referee will confirm them or not)...

Now i'm going to be the next Nostradamus (ok, ok it was an easy prediction...)

Originally posted by JohnIII
You obviously don't know the laws of the game, then.

Originally posted by JohnIII
Of course, your previous posts are telling me that you don't watch much football, don't know the laws of the game...

Reading your previous posts he's not the only one...
Anyway it's strange that the referee was so meticulous in applying this rule forgetting all the others, it's something that make you think

Originally posted by yin26
"...need more space on the servers for the flood of lame excuses coming in..."

...need more space on the referee's home for the flood of money coming in...

Originally posted by JohnIII
I'm really getting sick of all these people moaning about the referee because their team lost. Your team could still have won.

In another thread i raised precise technical refereeing questions and the only thing you're able to say now is that people is moaning just because their team lost?
Yeah, yeah, it's due to people like you that FIFA is allowed to play so dirty tricks... (or to act in so incompetent way, choose the one do you prefer)

Anyway it's not my business (it's seems to be a Korean one ), let's go Korea! win this World Cup! you'll de$erved it, but who will raise it to the sky? the captain or the referee?

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Korea Republic-Italy
18 June, 20:30
Daejeon, Korea
Man of the Match: MORENO Byron

"Siamo al mondiale: i guardalinee bisogna prenderli dalla serie A, non dall'interregionale... "
--- Bobo Vieri

[MarkG]

and yes, he has played important matches like Costa Rica vs Honduras, USA vs Trinidad and Tobago, Thailand vs Iran and Bahrain vs Saudi Arabia

[JohnIII]

Originally posted by MarkG

Referee since 1 January 1990
First International: Pakistan : Jordan (10 April 1988)

so he first started playing as a ref and then he actually became one?!?!?!?

more data please....

Go on, find it yourself. Referee data is very hard to find.

Angelo, are you still banging on about this great conspiracy against Europe?

[MarkG]

Go on, find it yourself. Referee data is very hard to find.

i'm not the one arguing that these ref do have experience
do you want me to search for something that i'm saying that it doesnt exist????

[Keygen]

Originally posted by JohnIII

Go on, find it yourself. Referee data is very hard to find.

Therefore easy to claim whatever you want

[JohnIII]

Originally posted by MarkG

Go on, find it yourself. Referee data is very hard to find.

i'm not the one arguing that these ref do have experience
do you want me to search for something that i'm saying that it doesnt exist????

Well, you dismissed a large amount of major tournament experience, including several world cups, out of hand.

[SpencerH]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The most experienced referees are not chosen on a worldwide basis. They're chosen for their Fifa experience within a region. The standard of refereeing has been poor at this WC especially for assistant referees and it has tainted the success of Korea (who are a pretty good team). Even the president of Fifa has said the refereeing has been poor.

[Angelo Scotto]

Originally posted by JohnIII
Angelo, are you still banging on about this great conspiracy against Europe?

John, are you still banging on about this WC having a superb refereeing?

Greetings,
Angelo

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Korea Republic-Italy
18 June, 20:30
Daejeon, Korea
Man of the Match: MORENO Byron

"Siamo al mondiale: i guardalinee bisogna prenderli dalla serie A, non dall'interregionale... "
--- Bobo Vieri