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  • #76
    Originally posted by Fez
    I don't even know why I argue with idiots... take your sig in mind Boris.
    Okay, I will, and will stop arguing with you.

    I never said you were an idiot, Fez. You're the one who has been hurling personal insults. There's a big difference between attacking a person's opinion and attacking the person themselves. You do the latter, and get mad when people do the former.

    Hopefully, in time, you will learn the difference, and then you'll be able to argue without coming across as a complete jerk.
    Tutto nel mondo è burla

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    • #77
      I was attacked in full force in this thread and another. I was not the one throwing insults first.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #78
        This from the author of "you dumb know-it-all"

        Next you'll be calling Sava "Mr. Poopiepants."
        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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        • #79
          Ugh I am tired of this.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #80
            I'm not! Wheeeeee!
            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Boris Godunov
              I'm not! Wheeeeee!
              me neither hahahahha!
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #82
                Everyone else is.
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • #83
                  Well... no.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #84
                    Ugh... I... uh.. am.

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                    • #85
                      Fez says no.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #86
                        Result, massive dear population explosion.
                        Oh dear.
                        "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
                        "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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                        • #87
                          Dear Stefu,

                          Please stop dearing around.

                          Dears dearly

                          Rudolf the Reindear

                          Fez says no? Fez get needs otherwise?

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                          • #88
                            UPDATE:

                            The 2 people who hung off the bridge have been jailed, with a $70,000 bail. It took crews from 3 fire stations in the city to get them down, so much of Missoula was left without fire coverage for several hours.

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                            • #89
                              Sounds like they are charging them with Missoula's own stupidity. Why the heck did it take three fire stations to get them? Your government is in bed with the logging company.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • #90
                                Here's today's article:

                                Earth First! members vow to continue efforts

                                Their climbing ropes and harnesses exchanged for jail-orange jumpsuits, a pair of Earth First! protesters answered to charges of felony criminal endangerment in Missoula Justice Court on Thursday, insisting they are innocent and should not have to post $70,000 each in bail money.



                                But Justice of the Peace Karen Orzech granted a prosecutor's request and told Sean McCoy and Stephanie Valle that they'll stay in jail until they come up with the money.



                                And if they do make bail, she said, they cannot have any contact with one another or with five other Earth Firsters arrested during an anti-logging protest on the Madison Street Bridge on Wednesday.



                                Valle, 19, told the judge she is from McCall, Idaho, and moved to Missoula 10 months ago. She's not a criminal, she said. "I got a smoking ticket when I was 16 and a drinking ticket when I was 17. I don't have a criminal record, and this crime was nonviolent."



                                Early on Wednesday afternoon, Valle and McCoy attached ropes to a logging truck and rappeled off the top of the Madison Street Bridge, dangling above the Clark Fork River. Five of their friends were arrested and charged with misdemeanors for their part in the spectacle - they jumped in front of the truck so it would stop.



                                The idea was to protest the logging of burned trees in the Bitterroot National Forest. In doing so, though, the protesters commanded the attention of three fire stations "and left the city of Missoula without fire protection," said Deputy Missoula County Attorney Jennifer Johnson.



                                Throughout the rescue, firefighters were at great risk, Johnson said. The Clark Fork was just 3 feet below flood stage and was so muddy that firefighters could not see what was below them. McCoy and Valle not only endangered themselves, she said, they endangered everyone in town.



                                The protesters, though, asked Orzech to let them go free, without bail.



                                McCoy, 27, told the judge that he was born and raised in Pocatello, Idaho, and worked most recently as a smokejumper based in Redmond, Ore. He's been in Missoula for the past six or eight months, he said, and should be trusted to stick around while he awaits trial.



                                "I am a nonviolent person," he said. "I served in the military for four years. I am going to appear. I have supported the community for a few years, and have been a part of the Missoula smokejumpers as well. I don't feel $70,000 is quite right."



                                Orzech wasn't fazed. "Is there a smokejumper in the court who actually knows Mr. McCoy?" she asked the audience. (McCoy and Valle were not in the room, but appeared via television from jail.)



                                No one raised a hand, thus Orzech's requirement for $70,000 in bail per person. McCoy and Valle will be provided with public defenders who can then ask for a bail reduction hearing, she said.



                                "I just don't have enough information about who you are, where you're from and exactly what you're doing in this community," Orzech said.



                                The judge also kept a short leash on 16 Earth Firsters who came to court for Thursday afternoon's hearing, warning one who spoke out during the proceedings to "stand when you address the court."



                                "And you'll ask permission in the future," she said. No one else spoke or made any sound. Six sheriff's deputies - three inside the courtroom and three just outside the door - stood ready to enforce the rules.



                                Afterward, on the sidewalk outside the Courthouse, Earth Firster Molly Karp said "the court isn't going to be able to stop people from acting against the Bitterroot salvage scam."



                                "If these kind of acts keep the issue out in front of the public, then we'll continue our protests," said Karp, who was one of the five charged with misdemeanors for stepping in front of the logging truck. They pleaded innocent in Municipal Court on Wednesday.



                                If the judge wants to make McCoy and Valle feel isolated by keeping them in jail, she will not succeed, Karp insisted. "I would be glad to go sit in jail to sit in solidarity with them. We are not going to stop."



                                Which is exactly why Johnson said she asked for the high bail.



                                "My information is that this is just the first of this kind of protest for the summer," she said. "This high bail is needed to deter further misconduct and to ensure public safety."

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