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  • #31
    Originally posted by chegitz guevara
    Gott in Himmel!
    See!! I knew you were a no good Nazi .
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #32
      I agree with Lincoln. Their hearts are in the right place but their target was not legitimate. After all, wood is a great renewable source of material, and as long as the trees are replanted and allowed to regrow, that is fine with me, it shows that we can integrate with an ecosystem constructively for once.
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #33
        I think the logging company and the city have a right to sue for damages. It is one thing to protest and another to inflict harm on a private company and a city.
        http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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        • #34
          i say we just kill all humans. VMHET or whatever has it right-- without people, the world would be a better place. :doitnow:
          B♭3

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          • #35
            If these environuts got there way in 1800s we all would living in a wild west scenario... 90% of the economy dependent on agriculture.

            If they get there way now, they could wipe out millions of jobs and not to mention wipe out future advancements like fuel cells because they want to destroy companies.

            I say they all should be locked up for the sake of everyone.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Ned
              I think the logging company and the city have a right to sue for damages. It is one thing to protest and another to inflict harm on a private company and a city.
              I agree, protesting is no excuse for unlawful behavior.
              Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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              • #37
                Fez, remember what we said about you posting idiotic comments?
                Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                  Fez, remember what we said about you posting idiotic comments?
                  Nothing idiotic 'bout my opinion.....

                  And your post is:
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #39
                    How about environuts being around in the 1800s?

                    And the wild west only existed in the wild west. We all wouldn't be living in it.

                    Protecting the environment is not akin to hampering scientific progress or modernization.
                    Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                      How about environuts being around in the 1800s?
                      I was just making a note of it. If policies like their's were inplace then the economy would stay independent on agriculture.

                      Protecting the environment is not akin to hampering scientific progress or modernization.
                      I disagree. And that is all I am going to say because I don't feel like arguing with somebody who calls my opinion idiotic. Later dude.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Fez
                        I disagree.
                        Without an environment, there won't be any scientific progress. Think about it a little bit... *squeeze those brain cells hard....you can do it*


                        And that is all I am going to say because I don't feel like arguing with somebody who calls my opinion idiotic. Later dude.
                        I didn't call your opinion idiotic, just the statement.

                        And running away never solves anything, dude.
                        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                          Without an environment, there won't be any scientific progress. Think about it a little bit... *squeeze those brain cells hard....you can do it*
                          Without companies you might aswell find a cave to live in. You think about a little bit... I am in favor of companies and always have been.... Sorry.

                          I didn't call your opinion idiotic, just the statement.

                          And running away never solves anything, dude.
                          Then be more clear... when you say it....

                          I don't even argue with somebody I know who is not going to change their mind.... duh...
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Fez
                            Without companies you might aswell find a cave to live in. You think about a little bit... I am in favor of companies and always have been.... Sorry.
                            1. Protecting the environment isn't anti-company. It's anti-companies-destroying-the-environment.

                            2. Would you rather...live off the land...or be extinct?

                            You're establishing a false dichotomy here, anyway.



                            Then be more clear... when you say it....
                            I was clear, you were not.

                            I don't even argue with somebody I know who is not going to change their mind.... duh...
                            Yet you continue to argue...

                            And I can use smileys, too:
                            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Fez

                              I don't even argue with somebody I know who is not going to change their mind.... duh...
                              I have never argued to change somebodies mind. I'll argue to let somebody know that there are other opinions and ideas. Sometimes I'll argue just to irritate someone.......




                              I can use smileys too!
                              Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                              • #45
                                while waiting for a more democracy friendy government

                                There in lies the problem, che. What is democratic about hijacking a truck to tie it down? I mean at least in Palestine you can argue that the Israeli government perpetrated the violence first, and this is just a response. That logging company never did anything to these enviornmentalists.

                                As for being "effective," I bet the cops had to spend a lot more money than the logging company, which just had to lose the services of a truck for 4 hours. Big deal.

                                This is capitalism. What will get things done is money. If you really care about the enviornment, spend your time getting a lot of money, and then use it to buy up a whole lot of land to set aside for no development. Now there can be occasional problems (eminent domain, revolution in country you bought land from and then "land reform"), but on the whole it's a pretty good technique. I contribute very little money to any cause (due to the lack of a job until recently), but that's the one cause I actually have contributed a semi-reasonable amount to, buying land in- drat, I can't even be sure which Central American country it was now. Oh well.
                                All syllogisms have three parts.
                                Therefore this is not a syllogism.

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