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  • Oh those wacky enviromentalists...

    Well, yesterday in my hometown of Missoula, 7 environmentalists managed to get themselves arrested. They are members of EarthFirst, and they are protesting the logging of the Bitterroot forest (right near where I now live, 40 miles south of missoula) which was burned in those bad fires 2 years ago. So they are standing on a bridge in missoula, waiting for a logging truck to come by, at which point, a few of them jump out in front to stop it. Then, two of them hook ropes to the truck and jump off of the bridge to unfurl some antiglobalization banner of theirs. It took the authorities several hours and resources to get them down, and the 7 of them are being charged with felony criminal endangerment for the danger that they put the authorities in.

    Now, I support their legal rights to protest and stand up for what they believe in, but this is just going too far. They don't have any right to break the law and endanger others like this. If you're going to protest, do it legally, I say.

  • #2
    Yep, anything effective is always going too far.

    Felony criminal endangerment is ridiculous.
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    • #3
      These people had a cause they believed in. When corporations break the law in order to manipulate governments and destory the environment, people barely notice. When some people break the law in order to stop them, they are criticised.

      And chegitz is right, the charges are ridiculous.

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      • #4
        I don't think the charges are ridiculous at all. They put themselves in a dangerous position and the authorities in a dangerous position, simply because they knew it would delay the logging.

        They should be locked up.
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        • #5
          Country Mouse and other whacky cartoons

          I just happen to glimpse a little bit of an HBO Family cartoon called Country Mouse this morning, and here is a quote:

          "He cuts down trees; he's a bad man!" Speaking about the antagonist- a burly, big bearded, flannel shirt, logger cap wearing man.

          Cartoons like Captain Planet and these other eco-centric animated shows aimed at teaching children respect for mother earth are just hilarious. Don't the producers of this tree-hugging crap know that the logging industry provides the most basic materials for building houses and other buildings? And obviously, deforestation isn't as big a problem as these hippies think, as I doubt the logging industry is about to cut their own throats by eradicating their source of income.

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          • #6
            Why are they logging burned wood? Has it any value. And why do these activists want to protect burned logs?

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            • #7
              I think that those people could have had a more positive effect on the environment if they had gone out and planted some trees, or organized some type of fundraiser/event to do so.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kropotkin
                And why do these activists want to protect burned logs?
                (natural) forest fires play a vital role in the eco-system, killing off large vegatition and allowing new plants to grow in place, making sure it doesn't become overgrown. Simply because there was a forest fire there 2 years ago does not mean it is some sort of desolate wasteland which is incapable of ever regrowing or supporting life again.
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                • #9
                  Yes, I know that. Why are they taking the loggs then?

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                  • #10
                    Yes, we must stop using the most renewable resource, so we can rely more on Plastic and other enviorofriendly building materials.

                    Save the planet.

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                    • #11
                      I want the Styrene Big Mac containers back NOW!!!

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                      • #12
                        The environmentalists claim that the earth will take care of itself and everything will be just peachy. The salvage logging being done here does produce useful lumber and also helps to reduce the risk of another bad forest fire. Considering the Forest Service made the plans for the salvage logging, I think they know just a little more about protecting the forest and also getting use out of it than these tree-huggers who just don't want any trees cut down.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Country Mouse and other whacky cartoons

                          Originally posted by Anunikoba
                          Don't the producers of this tree-hugging crap know that the logging industry provides the most basic materials for building houses and other buildings?
                          Don't you have bricks?

                          Tree-hugging is great
                          Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
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                          • #14
                            Re: Re: Country Mouse and other whacky cartoons

                            Originally posted by Immortal Wombat

                            Tree-hugging is great
                            Ohh!! Go suck a log!!

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                            • #15
                              Tree-hugging? Frankly I'd like to hug people
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