Europeans Voters Turn Against Left

[Giancarlo]

If I were registered for Spanish elections I would almost always vote for the Partido Popular... a conservative party...

http://www.pp.es

[red_jon]

Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
Yes, but it's easy for Lincoln (incorrectly) to dismiss that as a view of someone on the far-left. Although come to think of it, he probably thinks I'm on the hard left myself... which just shows how extreme-right and loony the Republican Party actually is.

I'm not far-left. I'm pro-capitalism, I just believe it needs to be limited. Monopolies are not capitalist.

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
Yes, but it's easy for Lincoln (incorrectly) to dismiss that as a view of someone on the far-left. Although come to think of it, he probably thinks I'm on the hard left myself... which just shows how extreme-right and loony the Republican Party actually is.

Well let's see here. First, I do not dismiss that as a view from someone on the far left. And second, I am not a Republican (loony or otherwise). Oh well you only missed two out of two.

[*End Is Forever*]

You're gay. That makes you far-left as far as bigoted Republicans go.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by red_jon


I'm not far-left. I'm pro-capitalism, I just believe it needs to be limited. Monopolies are not capitalist.

Umm actually it depends... if monopolies are state owned they certainly are not capitalistic. But if they are private they certainly are capitalistic. But they are not efficient. The same goes with oligopolies for those econ nuts who know what I am talking about.

[Lincoln]

oops

[*End Is Forever*]

Fair enough Lincoln. I do apologise for calling you a Republican. It's a pretty big insult, and I apologise for any offence called.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


Umm actually it depends... if monopolies are state owned they certainly are not capitalistic. But if they are private they certainly are capitalistic. But they are not efficient. The same goes with oligopolies for those econ nuts who know what I am talking about.

But surely capitalism is about market competition. With monopolies the competition obviously isn't there, so it may as well be state-owned.

[Lincoln]

Mai pen rai (it is nothing)

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
You're gay. That makes you far-left as far as bigoted Republicans go.

What a brilliant cross-post

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by red_jon


But surely capitalism is about market competition. With monopolies the competition obviously isn't there, so it may as well be state-owned.

Technically. That is why private monopolies are so inefficient unless not subsidized by the state. And Microsoft isn't a monopoly, if it was there wouldn't be any lawsuits. The OS market is an uncollusive oligopoly.

The water and electric companies are monopolies. If they weren't and weren't subsidized by the state, horrendous prices would be charged.

[Zealot]

Originally posted by red_jon
Well it has to be remembered that the American Democrats would be the equivalent of a right-wing party in Europe. European conservatives can be more liberal than the Democrat Party.

/me watches RJ shooting his own foot

Hehe. RJ, it's the Republican party who are the conservatives, not the Democrats.
Funny how no american noticed this yet. Could it be that no one pays attention to what red_jon says?
Ok ok, this one was too mean. I'm just kidding anyway!

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Zealot


* Zealot watches RJ shooting his own foot

Hehe. RJ, it's the Republican party who are the conservatives, not the Democrats.
Funny how no american noticed this yet. Could it be that no one pays attention to what red_jon says?
Ok ok, this one was too mean. I'm just kidding anyway!

I know. That's the point I was making, that the US liberals were more right-wing than some European conservatives.

What was that about shooting feet?

[Zealot]

Excuse me but when you say "Well it has to be remembered that the American Democrats would be the equivalent of a right-wing party in Europe.", even if you were being sarcastic, in where would you position the Republicans? Far right?

We can't possibly consider your sentence as logically true!

[Kyle]

Originally posted by red_jon


I know. That's the point I was making, that the US liberals were more right-wing than some European conservatives.

What was that about shooting feet?

The perceptions that US liberals are right-wing is brought about because they can't really practice what they want. Centrist public opinion doesn't allow them (same for Conservatives). They are not right wing.