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  • #46
    Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Payne, Benjamin Franklin and George Washington.
    I finally tend to be persuaded that Americans are being brainwashed to believe that the only revolutionaries that ever existed have been these bunch of people. All the rest are just terrorists.

    Oh no, I forgot, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Princess Leia are also considered revolutionaries in the United States (though not on par with the founding fathers)...

    As for revolutionaries, if they fight for social progress, then they all have my sympathy. However, a special mention must go to citizen Grachus Babeuf who in 1795, was arrested and executed for pointing out that the French Revolution would be incomplete without the abolition of private property. He was the first communist of our times and he inspired many revolutionaries that followed him in 1830, 1848 and later.
    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
    George Orwell

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Albert Speer
      why'd you edit your question out?
      Because I thought of the answer seconds after I posted the question. Smart I am. Yup.
      What else is there to say apart from bleh?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by chegitz guevara
        Okay, having actually thought about the answer I'll have to say that the Khmer Rouge and Sendero Luminoso are not among those revolutionaries that I respect.
        Mmmmm

        Shining Path. So freaking crazy.
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Stefu
          Oh no! Imran and EuroWiggy agree with me! This demolishes my EuroCom cred!

          *backpedal backpedal backpedal*

          I was wrong! Best kind of revolution is one where self-appointed representatives of people con illiterate poor into forcing the aforementioned self-appointed representatives of people to become new rulers at gunpoint, so SAROP can start their policy of recreational oppression, social engineering of Chernobyl level and ethnic anti-running dog genocide which might incidentally target few target ethnic groups most seeped with running-doggery! Yep, that's the ticket!

          *frontpedal frontpedal frontpedal*

          Naaah.
          I'm more of a Eurocom than you've ever been...
          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
          Stadtluft Macht Frei
          Killing it is the new killing it
          Ultima Ratio Regum

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          • #50
            The Gracchi brothers
            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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            • #51
              Here's a new one Joseph Smith.
              Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by sparkplug
                Benjamin Tucker
                Wow, never thought I'd see another Tuckerite on poly

                The Friends of Durrutti
                bit too radical for me, prefer the more moderate and less thuggish elements of CNT...
                Stop Quoting Ben

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                • #53
                  I bet you 10Euro that he will be mentioning Nestor Machno next...
                  "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
                  George Orwell

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by axi


                    I finally tend to be persuaded that Americans are being brainwashed to believe that the only revolutionaries that ever existed have been these bunch of people. All the rest are just terrorists.

                    Oh no, I forgot, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Princess Leia are also considered revolutionaries in the United States (though not on par with the founding fathers)...

                    As for revolutionaries, if they fight for social progress, then they all have my sympathy. However, a special mention must go to citizen Grachus Babeuf who in 1795, was arrested and executed for pointing out that the French Revolution would be incomplete without the abolition of private property. He was the first communist of our times and he inspired many revolutionaries that followed him in 1830, 1848 and later.
                    Isn't your entire statement biased? Only one person mentioned them. Are they not revolutionaries? Must he have listed several other revolutionaries along with these people? What about the people who listed other revolutionaries? Must they mention Grachus Babeuf as well or be labelled ignorant nationalists?

                    Frankly, your statement was way out of line. It doesn't demonstrate anything wrong with Americans, rather it demonstrates something it wrong with you. If you need to express your feelings about another nation, please do it in a civilized manner and in the appropriate place. Unsubstantiated and biased accusations are no way to get your point across.
                    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                    "Capitalism ho!"

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                    • #55
                      Ray Kroc.
                      Akio Morita.
                      Charles Merrill.
                      What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Boshko

                        Wow, never thought I'd see another Tuckerite on poly

                        That's not surprising, since Tuckerite anarchism is almost extinct today. Unless you include the 'anarcho'-capitalists adoption of American Individualist radicalism, which is quite silly, because Tucker was very anti capitalist.
                        What else is there to say apart from bleh?

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                        • #57
                          Unless you include the 'anarcho'-capitalists adoption of American Individualist radicalism, which is quite silly, because Tucker was very anti capitalist.
                          Yes, I was pretty confused by berzerker (one of our resident anarcho-capitalists) liking him, having them like Spooner makes at least some sense though...
                          And next semester I'm in a communist/anarchist theory class and all the anarchist reading is by social anarchists, will have to do my bit to set people straight
                          Stop Quoting Ben

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                          • #58
                            Jose de San Martin.

                            Oliver Cromwell.

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                            • #59
                              "Oliver Cromwell"

                              Wow! I didn't know El Awrence would be one to support religious fundamentalists and those who comitt genocide!
                              "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                              "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                              • #60
                                If you become a Protestant then you have to think of Cromwell as a good guy...
                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                                Killing it is the new killing it
                                Ultima Ratio Regum

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