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  • #16
    Originally posted by Havak


    Are you sure? I know the ARU does this but I don't think we necessarily do for example.
    It's the policy here. I'd've been surprised if, over there, a Mid-week Wallabies -v- English Provincial Team (or similar) would have a neutral ref.

    Frankly it is better to avoid it if possible as you do see some shocking displays that could easily be taken as biased. I've seen several but I'm not allowed to mention that tour anymore.
    You're going to get stinkers from independent refs, too. I've seen it happen, I'm sure you have too. With a half-decent ref, bias is never going to rear its head. Interpretation is a different matter. On that basis, a NH ref in charge of a SH team -v- a NH team playing in the NH is hardly independent in terms of interpretation. The simple solution is to import refs from Mars. I hear they have a healthy comp up there. Winters in the grandstands are a bugger, but.





    They acknowledged his potential class as a player, but were a little concerned they were funding his year long European tour.

    They do seem to have some grounds for that - certainly when I saw him take the field for them in the European rounds it wasn't the same man who threw everything he has in for the Brumbies. I would almost say he didn't want to get hurt (looking to RWC?)...and you shouldn't be in French club rugby in that case (it's pretty violent at times).



    Ah yes that well known Aussie - one of seven different nationalites in the current Aussie squad I have been told - is that slander that has been passed on to me? [/QUOTE]
    " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
    "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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    • #17
      It's the policy here. I'd've been surprised if, over there, a Mid-week Wallabies -v- English Provincial Team (or similar) would have a neutral ref.
      Oh we would normally be very accomodating and agree to let a Celt do it I suspect.

      [quote]The simple solution is to import refs from Mars. I hear they have a healthy comp up there. Winters in the grandstands are a bugger, but.[/qoute]



      I've experienced most weather types watching Rugger in England but that could be a little too cold for comfort.

      I think there are two English refs involved in the current tours of SH oppostion IIRC. Steve Lander and Chris White. Mr White is okay - a good solid confident ref who lets the game flow (leaning to SH interpretation) and who, quite amusingly, dislikes histrionics - he warned a player last weekend for trying to get a fellow Professional sent off (no it wasn't Jonno!).

      Steve Lander? Well as a Tigers fan I can't claim to be unbiased but although he is a solid ref most of the time he seems driven to need to be the star on the pitch. Its leads to crazy situations and poor decisions.

      Wales versus SA at the weekend then. Look however bad the Boks are they will not struggle with Wales who are simply terrible. The only team Wales might beat in the top five is England because it is the only game that brings out their passion anymore - beating us in the six nations means more to them than any other game you know.
      It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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      • #18
        Originally posted by finbar


        It'll be very much a Waratah 2nd XV. Matthew Burke, Matt Rogers, Chris Whitaker, Brendan Cannon, David Lyons and Patricio Noreaga are off in the Wallaby squad. OTOH, Queensland were missing just as many players and they still beat the Maori XV.
        Yes, but they didnt have the pshycological demons to deal with.

        I expect the Maoris to win the Waratahs game.
        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Caligastia

          I expect the Maoris to win the Waratahs game.
          Me too. If they don't, they're in bother.
          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by finbar


            Me too. If they don't, they're in bother.
            Yes, if they lose they can forget about beating the Wallabies. They can probably forget about that anyway.
            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
            ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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            • #21
              Oh it's not that hard chaps
              It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Havak
                Oh it's not that hard chaps
                Not for New Zealanders anyway...
                ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                • #23
                  I can't say I noticed that in the last tri-nations.

                  England on the other hand are 2-0 up in the last two encounters (and we don't talk about before that anymore)
                  It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Havak
                    I can't say I noticed that in the last tri-nations.

                    England on the other hand are 2-0 up in the last two encounters (and we don't talk about before that anymore)
                    What happened in the last tri-nations? For some reason I have no memory of it. All I remember is New Zealand winning all the time.
                    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                    • #25
                      You are far too scared to take us on at Fortress Twickenham, though, aren't you?

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                      • #26
                        scared of humiliating you
                        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                        • #27
                          Treat him nicely, Caligastia, he's about the first poster in these Rugby threads who isn't you, me or Havak. Many hands make light work of keeping a thread afloat.
                          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Havak

                            England on the other hand are 2-0 up in the last two encounters (and we don't talk about before that anymore)
                            I'm happy to. I'm also perfectly happy to talk about the Lions tour, too.
                            " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                            "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                            • #29
                              What, and super coach Graham Henry? No-one took that tour seriously.

                              (Well, not after we lost.)

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JohnIII
                                What, and super coach Graham Henry? No-one took that tour seriously.

                                (Well, not after we lost.)
                                Well, precisely. In the same way that no Australian took the last Wallaby tour of the NH seriously. It's called having your rake and eating it.
                                " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                                "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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