Chretien begins forming his fascist dictatorship

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher
I think the NDP are being incredibly stupid because all they ever do is b*tch and moan about how stupid everyone else is.

Harper was the one complaining about how Maritimers have a culture of defeatism, not the NDP. I can't recall the last time the NDP ever said that everyone is stupid.

And of course, the CAs never ***** and moan. We never hear the Albertan CAs whining on about how everyone ignores them and how the rest of the country is trying to screw them.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai


Harper was the one complaining about how Maritimers have a culture of defeatism, not the NDP. I can't recall the last time the NDP ever said that everyone is stupid.

He went further on to describe his plans for how to revitalize the culture and economy of the region...

is that part of the quotes not important? I guess they aren't. All that matters is he identified a problem (which is blatantly obvious to ANYONE with eyes, albeit not totally politically correct and probably a slip of the tongue) and put forth a solution.

The NDPs just whine, and whine, and whine, and set up strawmen arguments. It was quite funny watching the debates where the NDP leader goes off on a tangent that nobody else is talking about...

And of course, the CAs never ***** and moan. We never hear the Albertan CAs whining on about how everyone ignores them and how the rest of the country is trying to screw them.

You still don't understand.
I'm not talking about that, but rather how the NDP never puts forth any SOLUTIONS. Just COMPLAINTS. ALWAYS.

And with attitudes like yours, KrazyHorses, Chretien, and most liberals/NDPers in general, is it any surprise that Alberta complains?

It's like we're surrounded by morons who keep electing a government that ****s up worse EVERY YEAR.

[KrazyHorse]

It's like we're surrounded by morons who keep electing a government that ****s up worse EVERY YEAR

Cry me a river.

Do you even remember what took place under Mulroney? Canada knows what happens whenever they let the rightists run the show, and we're not eager to let it happen again.

[Asher]

Oh please, Mulroney was not a rightist. That's like saying Paul Martin is left wing.

Mulroney was a liberal running under the conservative banner. Anyone looking at his policies can figure that one out...

On the other hand, a true right wing party has been in power in Alberta for over 30 years straight. Look how horribly it worked out for us.

[KrazyHorse]

He's as far right as we'll ever elect.

If Stephen Harper ever becomes PM I will quite literally eat my hat. To get into power the CA's going to have to swing a hell of a lot further left than it is right now.

[KrazyHorse]

On the other hand, a true right wing party has been in power in Alberta for over 30 years straight. Look how horribly it worked out for us

I'm reminded of a conversation between a Social Credit supporter and Bud Olson.

Voter: Why should we vote for the Liberals? Social Credit's made us prosperous

Olson: Don't you think that that might have something to do with the oil on our land?

Voter: Yes, but Mr. Manning (sr.) prayed for the good Lord to put that oil there...

[Asher]

Having ample resources are absolutely useless if your government mismanages them.

Look at British Columbia...

[KrazyHorse]

Which ample resources? The ones that are being ****ed with by the Americans?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
If Stephen Harper ever becomes PM I will quite literally eat my hat. To get into power the CA's going to have to swing a hell of a lot further left than it is right now.

Amusing pun

[Asher]

BC didn't have that problem in the 90s, when the NDPs were in tact.

And you know damn well all of the resources BC has.

The problem was the NDP discouraged businesses from operating there. There was no real point with the tax system they set up. On the other hand, right next door to BC was the place with the lowest taxes in the nation...

You do know that only 25% of Alberta's revenue comes from energy, right?

And you're blind enough to paint BC's total failure in the 90s on the US, rather than the NDP, and Alberta's complete success in the 90s up through today on oil (which has declined every year in terms of percentage of our GDP and revenues), rather than on government leadership?

To the casual observer it'd appear that you're blinding yourself so you don't see the shortcomings of the government you support.

[notyoueither]

I think realism indicates that the real hope for the right in Canada is the Tories with CA support in the West.

As for the right prefering to fight among themselves, it seems it's the Liberals and the left who prefer the current situation.

[KrazyHorse]

government you support

Not in this lifetime. I'd be on the barricades even if the NDP was our government.

You do know that only 25% of Alberta's revenue comes from energy, right?

Jesus. Only 25%? Frigging unbelievable. So what you're saying is that you only have a 25% advantage over everybody else? We all know that places like Saudi Arabia and Bahrain are rich because of the good governance they have...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Asher
BC didn't have that problem in the 90s, when the NDPs were in tact

The BC NDPers had a lot of assets, but tact wasn't one of them...

[Asher]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Jesus. Only 25%? Frigging unbelievable. So what you're saying is that you only have a 25% advantage over everybody else? We all know that places like Saudi Arabia and Bahrain are rich because of the good governance they have...

And here I was thinking that Canada was full of resources all over the nation.

I guess I was wrong, seeing that Alberta is the only province with resource revenue.

And yeah, Saudi actually does have a decent government economically. They could use a bit in terms of human rights though.

[KrazyHorse]

Please, compare with the revenue brought in from primary industries in other provinces and you'll see a difference. I'd be surprised if Quebec got more than 5% of its revenue from such sources as hydro power and timber.