Fair is Fair, a question for Europe

[rah]

Ok, back to the question, would europe feel represented with only one vote. Or might you get a little suspicious of the organization. (for those that didn't forsee where this was going)

RAH

[moomin]

It really doesn't matter, does it?

The UN ought to be dismantled anyway.

[SpencerH]

That kinda hit the nail on the head

[red_jon]

Originally posted by rah
If Europe did agree to reduce it's vote to one.

Do you feel you would be properly represented? Or would your needs be lost among the masses of third world countries?

RAH

I thought Tony Blair and Bush were lobbying to have all the third world votes reduced to one, under the title of 'The Land Where Brown People Come From' or 'Cruise Missile Testing Range'?

[Shi Huangdi]

I think if Europe actually declared itself to be one soverign state, they would have to accept having one vote. I don't think the UN has to continue giving seats to non-existnant countries, and I can't imagine who would support letting the Europeans keep their old votes outside of Europe. Especially since China has only 1 vote and they have way more population then Europe does.

[rah]

Originally posted by red_jon


I thought Tony Blair and Bush were lobbying to have all the third world votes reduced to one, under the title of 'The Land Where Brown People Come From' or 'Cruise Missile Testing Range'?

So much for serious arguements from the chaps on the other side of the pond.

RAH

[TCO]

Originally posted by red_jon


I thought Tony Blair and Bush were lobbying to have all the third world votes reduced to one, under the title of 'The Land Where Brown People Come From' or 'Cruise Missile Testing Range'?

SEE!!

Bush had a good reason for asking about Brazil.

[TCO]

Rah...it was a great question. And very interesting to think about. kudos.

(BTW we shou;d get together for drinks. I'll be in Chi town in a couple weeks.)

[TCO]

Originally posted by SpencerH
The EU mandated what a sausage was, and "bangers" wern't. Theres your independent states. You've got 10 years before you're using the flag the Dutch guy designed (the bar codes).

YES!!

Bar code will rule you all!!

[notyoueither]

A very interesting question. A perhaps unintended consequence of it is to highlight how the relatively rigid nature of the organization may well lead to the UN becoming more and more of an irrelevant entity as time goes by. Unless it can reform itself.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by MrFun
Perhaps the United States is entitled to 50 votes in the UN for each state of the United States to be consistent with each EU country entitled to one vote.

Why not? The USA is a regional Economic and Political Union. At least, originally. States in the USA have more power than "proviences" in other countries.

[Ned]

They is something very very wrong about one-state one-vote in the context of the GA. The very idea of the EU being reduced to 1 vote illustrates the problem.

I support the SC only because the US has a veto.

[CyberGnu]

well, if it would come to that, it is very likely that the voting model would be redone altogether... Maybe more like the EU parliament or the US congress, where the number of representatives is 'sort of proportional to population'. Basically, if all the small states gang up, they have more votes than the big ones, even though their total population is lower.

I suprised myself by considering this practice unfair in the US, but defensible in the EU... Basically on the grounds that in the US the difference between the states is so little, there is no real reason to diffrentiate the votes. Whereas in Europe, we know that France would run roughshod over everyone else if only they could...

[CyberGnu]

It is a great question, though, RAH.

[CyberGnu]

Monk, if you are going to thank Stefu for the avatar, shouldn't you at least spell his name right?