Bisexual?

[Solly]

Show me one comment from me that is homophobic in this thread.

You with your "all gays would prefer to be straight" line are much more homophobic, you are just dressing it up in pretty words.

[Provost Harrison]

I did thankyou MrFun. That is all I meant, it must be a difficult thing to come to terms with. I suppose once the dust has settled, it is the worst of it out of the way, you can just get on with being yourself and living. But Stew likes to twist my words.

[MrFun]

Provost, you might have stated it the wrong way, but I did not think your intention was to promote homophobic beliefs.

As for Boddington -- there are two types of homophobics -- the violent type, and the non-violent type.
Maybe Boddington is the non-violent type of homophobic.

[Solly]

"But Stew likes to twist my words."

They didn't need any twisting.

[Provost Harrison]

Oh come on, there was no grounds to misinterpret what I was trying to say. I said that coming out must be very difficult, and if given the choice, would want to be just like everyone else, to begin with. Note I am not referring to the 'fully outed' homosexual who has learned to know himself and who he is. And in a very specific context too, referring to Stew's accusations that 'it's cool to be bi' when really, he has no idea how hard coming out must be...just think about having to make a declaration like that to your friends and family, not knowing what kind of reaction to expect...anywhere from supportive to outright hostile. And someone would do this in the name of 'fashion'? Bull.

[Sarxis]

I was going to say something (actually had it posted).

But no matter what you say on the subject of sexuality, you are bound to offend someone, or something.

So off with the lot of ya'!

[nationalist]

Originally posted by MrFun
Provost, you might have stated it the wrong way, but I did not think your intention was to promote homophobic beliefs.

As for Boddington -- there are two types of homophobics -- the violent type, and the non-violent type.
Maybe Boddington is the non-violent type of homophobic.

What is with the term homophobe? I think that it is inaccurate. Do all people who disagree with homosexuals fear them? Do the opposites (homophiles would be the opposites of homophobes) all love homosexuals? It seems to me that the term itself is biased.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by nationalist


What is with the term homophobe? I think that it is inaccurate. Do all people who disagree with homosexuals fear them? Do the opposites (homophiles would be the opposites of homophobes) all love homosexuals? It seems to me that the term itself is biased.

Actually, maybe the term heterosexist is better than homophobic.
Or, you can use one or the other -- which ever is more appropriate for a particular situation or discussion.

[-=Vagrant=-]

Whenever a heterosexual declares that "Homosexuality is a choice!" I'm assuming that they are using their own preference as a reference. In other words, they can switch back and forth between sleeping with one gender and the other (something that I couldn't do). In other words, they must be a bisexual who chooses to only sleep with the opposite gender, and are transferring that bisexuality on the general population.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Family Values? You've got to be joking, right? You sound like John Major's puppet.

Yes, I bet Bodds would love John Majors hand up his ass

Edit: Typo

[Provost Harrison]

[chequita guevara]

I prefer the term heterosexist. Homophobia implies a fear of homosexuality, while heterosexism is more accurate a term. Anti-gayism is about people being in their "proper" gender roles. Heterosexism isn't just about keeping gay people in their place, it's also about keeping straight people in their places.

Heterosexism is just as much about keeping the woman barefoot and pregnant as it is about ensuring that men are manly and in charge. Remember, one of the biggest insults to straight men is to call them a punk (in Black slang a punk is someone who takes it up the ass) or ******. It implies you aren't acting like a real man. It's about conformity.

[Az]

yes, from the perspective of seeing the 'penetrator' as dominant in some way, I'd say you're probably correct,che . But thinking of the 'penetrator' in terms of dominance is thinking that is rather gone, mostly , at the middle of the previous century in countries with european cultures.

or at least I think so.

[Ecthy]

I think that penetration dominance thing has lost its main importance when the Roman empire fell....

...where it was pretty significant, especially amongst men

[chequita guevara]

Dalgetti, perhaps you aren't away of the religous right. There was, not to long ago, a very large flash-in-the-pan movement called the Promise Keepers. One of their primary goals was for men to retake their "rightful" place at the head of the family. Heterosexism.