The Sensible Majority Believe US And Europe Need To Work Together

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Ned
I see a lot of anti-American cr*p in this forum. There is very little anti-anything else cr*p. (Save for Israel.)

I think this speaks volumes. Blair is entirely correct in his analysis.

That's amazing, considering the majority of posters are Usians.

[ZoboZeWarrior]

Originally posted by Boddington's
Only because the EU isn't treating the US with the respect it deserves. Hopefully Blair will sort the EU wrt this.

[Ecowiz Returns]

The only flaw in Blair argument is that it is incomplete.

Of course we have all the interest in a cooperation between EU and US. However, the EU has its (citizen's) interests and the US as its (citizen's) interests. Only a strike of luck will make both interests allways non-conflicting. When they are conflicting, reason, and the notion the cooperation is the best way, should ease negotiation (but not capitulation of one part, be that US or EU).

And, if asked to choose between US and EU, I'm sure Blair will choose UK (ie, whatever serves him best).

Any doubts about that?

[Chris 62]

Roland, why do you bring me into this nonsense?

Originally posted by Roland
Well US superiority is limited to a few fields. But yes, as a rule:

1. if you are superior, thou shalt not blah on and on about how great you are and how much everyone else sucks

You maen the way continental Euros always try and fail to do?

2. if you are not superior, thou shalt not blah on and on about how great you are and how much everyone else sucks

Ala Marky and Paiktis?

As an example for rule 2, America inc. has been bombarding about how great your financial system is. One enron, one Ebbers and several other "incidents" later, there still is the same blah, although more muted and with some *cough* dissent.
Now I can understand why antiamerican noises hit some nerves on your side of the pond, but most of you haven't witnessed the crap we've been exposed to from your side, roughly since the end of the cold war and the collapse of the japanese economic miracle - guess for lack of other proper comparisons for your #1-ism.

Why is it these threads are NEVER started by Americans, always by Europeans?

Antiamericanism was pretty much the reserve of the wild left and the very extreme right. It has become very fashinable recently, and I do not think that the bulk of the blame for this is with any substantial change in Europe, but rather in America. I'd also point out that the major newspapers usually do not run "fascist americans" op-eds, while eg the Washington Post does not hesitate to bring a "antisemitic europe" op-ed, and similar things in the NYT....

Probaly because the US isn't facist, while most of Europe is anti-semitic?
Whatever happened to the Jews of Europe, anyway?

As for Colin Powell or our own Chris## here - "I feel your pain".

The only place I see this Euro stupidity is on Apolyton, and from the kiddies, Roland.
You should know better.

plus all americans are now a bunch of frightened dogs because of imminent terracts. same in the UK in a short while

This is too far Paiktis, this goes beyound trolling.

[Saint Marcus]

BTW does anyone know what "sensible mayority" Blair is talking about? He didn't give any figures, nor any source.

It has become very fashinable recently

Yep, and that's mostly my doing too. Better give me the credit I deserve, you'll thank me when you're older. (including USians, who want to get rid of NATO anyways).

[Immortal Wombat]

The sensible majority believe US and Europe need to work together

True. But the majority are are neither American nor European, they are largely Asian...

[Roland]

Re: Roland, why do you bring me into this nonsense?

"You maen the way continental Euros always try and fail to do?"

You mean, we suck at boasting ?

"Why is it these threads are NEVER started by Americans, always by Europeans?"

You're suffering from selective perception. Several America the greatest, kick ass, nr1, stupid europeans threads.

"while most of Europe is anti-semitic?"

I've challanged you several times to bring the evidence that western europe is (emphasis on the presence) more antisemitic than the US. Put up or shut up.

If you really think Paiktis went too far there - I find your antisemitism trolling equally disgusting.

"The only place I see this Euro stupidity is on Apolyton, and from the kiddies, Roland.
You should know better."

You need to read more euro leftist stuff, and then some anti-european hate propaganda from US rightwing "thinktanks". Loads of stupidity.

[Chris 62]

The air must be awful thin on that moutain...

Originally posted by Roland
You mean, we suck at boasting ?

You need something to boast about first.

You're suffering from selective perception. Several America the greatest, kick ass, nr1, stupid europeans threads.

Let's look at the last four pages of poly for example......nope, none.
Are they invisable?

I've challanged you several times to bring the evidence that western europe is (emphasis on the presence) more antisemitic than the US. Put up or shut up.

The USA never did this:

http://www.nizkor.org/

Nothing you say will ever erase this stain, and you keep it up to this day, except you hide it now as "support for Palestians" (whom you never gave a f*ck about previously)

If you really think Paiktis went too far there - I find your antisemitism trolling equally disgusting.

Stop showing your extreme ignorence (I know it's hard, but try).
I have NEVER trolled this board, dumb-ass.
You bastards hate jews so much it kills you they have a country.
Why not just admit it?

You need to read more euro leftist stuff, and then some anti-european hate propaganda from US rightwing "thinktanks". Loads of stupidity.

Nothing here is mainstream, in fact. most of us like Europe.
It's just the jerk-offs we loathe.

[Ecthy]

I hope you know this is not a debate, Chris...

Originally posted by Chris 62
The only place I see this Euro stupidity is on Apolyton, and from the kiddies, Roland.

Hey!

[Roland]

"Stop showing your extreme ignorence (I know it's hard, but try). I have NEVER trolled this board, dumb-ass. "

Sigh... Ok, this was the last attempt to get a discussion with you, as it seems absolutely hopeless you could move away from your idiotic online persona.

In the face expression of Colin Powell:

[Ecthy]

@ Roland

What was your comment about Colin Powell all about? Don't like him? Isser nich der einzje mit Hirn da drüben?

[Roland]

Colin Powell made that face in reaction to the likes of saintmarcus and the other european counterparts of Chrissie.

[August Borms]

Re: The air must be awful thin on that moutain...

Originally posted by Chris 62
The USA never did this:

http://www.nizkor.org/

Nothing you say will ever erase this stain, and you keep it up to this day, except you hide it now as "support for Palestians" (whom you never gave a f*ck about previously)

Germany != Western Europe

[Ecthy]

I'm talking about the previous remark.... you being sorry and all

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
Hey!

I wanted no part of this, Andy.

Roland was just looking to bust my chops, as usual.

Since I'm sure his next post will be a white wash of the Holocaust, here is more fun and games:

http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/euro-arab.html

http://www.ushmm.org/research/center/persecution/after.html

http://www.adl.org/presrele/ASInt_13/CD_13.asp

http://www.freeman.org/m_online/jan02/dan.htm

I know what your next evasion will be Roland, you will say it's "Jewish Propaganda", the same line used by another prominent Austria several decades ago.