First results in from Dutch elections: we're @#$%ed

[DanS]

"Explaining the CDA to Americans, I would say it can be situated somewhere in between the Democrats and the Republicans, but closer to the Democrats."

An American shorthand is that they are "Reagan Democrats". By and large these are now Republicans and independents and make up 15-20% of the electorate.

So the CDA is slightly left of Germany's CDU?

[Solly]

The right gains more power in Europe.

Perhaps we shall start to see sounder economic policies as a result.

[Hueij]

Perhaps we shall start to see sounder economic policies as a result.

Yep, let's all worship St Economy

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Oldenbarnevelt
Explaining the CDA to Americans, I would say it can be situated somewhere in between the Democrats and the Republicans, but closer to the Democrats.

Then why all the chicken little talk from your fellow countryman?

[Oldenbarnevelt]

Originally posted by DanS
[So the CDA is slightly left of Germany's CDU?

Exactly!

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[Clear Skies]

From the BBC news pages:

Exit polls:
Christian Democrats: 40
Pim Fortuyn List: 26
Labour Party: 24
VVD: 24

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...00/1990159.stm

[Hueij]

Then why all the chicken little talk from your fellow countryman?

Because his (this) fellow countryman is one of those "loony lefties"...

Anyway, the Socialist Party (most left wing party out here) doubled their seats in parliament

[Shi Huangdi]

"Christian Democrats? From what you describe that sounds like a real step backwards. If they try and take back your rights that you have fought for all this time, take to the streets!"

Isn't it funny how the far left always talks about how they believe in democracy and how they want to extend democracy to everything- but then when democracy gives them a result they don't like they can't accept it.

[Hueij]

but then when democracy gives them a result they don't like they can't accept it.

BS... The left did't lose. The center did. Just remember your left isn't our left...

[Shi Huangdi]

I was reffering to Provost Harrison. He is far left, and he didn't like the results of the election, and so he advocates taking to the streets.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Isn't it funny how the far left always talks about how they believe in democracy and how they want to extend democracy to everything- but then when democracy gives them a result they don't like they can't accept it.

That is incredibly amusing.

[Clear Skies]

A democratic 'win' doesn't necessarily give a party the automatic right to rescind the rights and freedoms of its citizens. One of the basic tenets of a liberal democracy. If the government attempts it, the population are well within their rights to demonstrate against that government.

[Oldenbarnevelt]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Then why all the chicken little talk from your fellow countryman?

Their view seems to be that, seeing as the Left is always right by definition, all others must be wrong, and probably bad, or mad, etc. To describe this kind of people (broadly the Politically Correct), Fortuyn coined the epiteth "de linkse kerk", the Leftist Church.

I didn't vote Fortuyn, I didn't vote CDA, I didn't vote for a leftist party, the party I voted for lost 15 seats, and I feel fine, thank you. -

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[Clear Skies]

I'm with the Provost on this one.

[kolpo]

I think people are over reacting, the CDA is not that bad I think. social are they centre just like the previous government was. I also woulnd't fair the moral somewhat conservative stance because you can't rule the nation allone and I don't know another party who shares there moral conservative ideology.