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  • #31
    Sweden pursued a policy which by many is hailed as brilliant and immensely effective and by others as treacherous, cowardly and honourless. Basically, It consisted of pursuing an appeasement policy towars hitler (by allowing nazi troop transports through sweden, by supplying him with steel and iron ore, by extraditing dissenters, by interning communists) until he started to have preoccupations elsewhere than scandinavia in about '43 when we unashamedly switched sides and started supplying the Allies with iron ore instead. All while remaining formally neutral, of course.

    While the moral disadavantages of this are obvious, the tactical advantages were huge. Sweden was peaceful, well-fed and stable during the entire war. No nazi threats, neither internal nor external, ever managed to touch the Swedish (all-party, though Social Democrat led) government. No reprecussions hit Sweden after the war, and more importantly, it was one of the few western european industrial economies not ruined and in need of no aid. This is where the basis of the post-war Swedish economic boom that lasted for decades lies. By many back in Sweden, the government's dogged determination not to relent while assaulted from all sides is seen as heroic, not treacherous. PM Per Albin Hansson is in many ways the political role model followed since, and is credited with creating the swedish "People's Home", the industry-government co-operative welfare model that made Sweden famous.
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    • #32
      Or maybe your goverment just were a buch of cowards
      Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

      - Paul Valery

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      • #33
        I'm not a big fan of the policy, Hansson nor of the Swedish Model (pseudo-fascist nonsense), but I'm just trying to report the situation. Perhaps you should stop being sarcastic when the author isn't pursuing an agenda?
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        • #34
          Britian rescued greece, from the italians.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BeBro


            Well, now we all learn English instead
            It's better. English is quite simple to learn and to use, and is more pleasant to the ear.
            German is really a ugly language (no offense, just speaking the truth ).
            It's always such a disappointment to see a beautiful girl and then BAM the ugly accent is coming
            Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Akka le Vil


              It's better. English is quite simple to learn and to use, and is more pleasant to the ear.
              German is really a ugly language (no offense, just speaking the truth ).
              It's always such a disappointment to see a beautiful girl and then BAM the ugly accent is coming
              Well, I agree to some extent. I also like English, but (for some reasons ) not more than German...
              Blah

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                the bombing of Rotterdam was the worst in world history at that time)
                Warsaw?

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                • #38
                  All of the occupied countries and even Germany itself had active undergrounds fighters.

                  Partisans from Norway were crucial in preventing Hitler from getting the A-bomb first.

                  Balkan guerillas were awesome.

                  The Poles provided military units to the Allies. Their most critical role, as I recall, was their heroic assault on the Monte Casino fotress in Italy. (Weren't they also in on the Dieppe raid?)

                  Garbo, the most effective British double-agent, was Spanish.

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                  • #39
                    Greece kicked Italy's @ss

                    Then fought a guerilla war against Hitler.

                    Italy's defeat in Greece force Hitler to delay his invasion of Russia which then caused them to bog down in the winter

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                    • #40
                      no hitler was going to attack Yugo/greece anyway. Kesselring warned him about RAF intervention from Yugoslavia.

                      oh and about Italy, I was trolling

                      Italy never beat anyone in ww2

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by paiktis22



                        yes but did they fight?
                        They valiantly resisted. I think the Netherlands lasted 8 days.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                          Where did you get your information from? We were never crushed, but surrendered to avoid our civilian population being wiped out. The terror bombing of Rotterdam did take us by surprise though. It was a despicible act of terrorism.
                          You were also crushed, but the Germans encountered heavier than expected resistance in a few areas. The terror bombing shouldn't have caught you by surprise after Guernica.
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                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Ecthelion


                            Warsaw?
                            Again: Guernica. 30 000 dead, IIRC.
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                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
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                            • #44
                              Yeah, but Guernica was a smaller place than Warsaw or Rotterdam.

                              Or Dresden, for that matter. Does anyone ever ask what the German population did during the war?

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                              • #45
                                Still more dead at Guernica, IIRC.

                                We know what the Germans did. It would be to your advantage not to bring it up...
                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
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