Well, you've finished to amuse me, now you're becoming tiresome...
What's funny is that from my point of view, YOU are the one full with innaccuracies and, more importantly, biased conclusions.
2004-2005 is no soon. Don't see the point to argue about proc that won't be here before two years, as nobody can even imagine the kind of performance they will have.
I'm perfectly aware about the Hammer, and what I'm seeing is that it will be available before the end of the year and that you can argue 'till your tongue become blue that it's a cheap design, it still seems to have a hell of a horsepower in it, and it CAN runs 64 bits programs at least as fast as 32 bits ones.
Gaah... That is a semantic arguing. I define the "raw strenght" by the most simple and less elegant way to boost the power of a processor : frequency. A processor that does more per clock is more elegant, as its design allow it to be more efficient rather than simply relying of more MHz.
We probably don't buy our RAM at the same place then.
Again insincerity.
YOU were the one arguing that a P4 runs perfectly well with DDR333.
I just reminded you that using DDR with a P4 is shooting the performance.
And I'm the one that is full of innaccuracies ?
So much insincerity AGAIN.
YOU were the one insinsting on the comparison of what both platform has best in chipset. When I compared the i850 to KT266 you said that it was an old and obsolete chipset.
Now you say that i850 can be used as i850E because it can go to 133 MHz too. Well, my own motherboard can go up to 166 MHz, and it's not even a KT266, it's just a KT133. Either we're talking about the OFFICIAL performances, and then you have to stick to i850E and not i850, either we're talking about the UNOFFICIAL performances, and then I can select the KT266 and not the KT333. Both case Athlon's chipset is cheaper, bot cases you're wrong.
What use is to stay on-topic with you ? You show such a great amount of insincerity and stubborness that it's like talking with a wall. I tried again this time, and I'm pretty sure that you'll still twist facts just to "prove" your ways.
Moreover, you're aggressive like a unsecure teen that need to show to the world that he's trying to becoming a man.
You should ask yourself if people not staying on-topic with you is not a problem coming from you rather than they.
Originally posted by Asher
You didn't destroy a single thing. In fact, you've astonished me with your inaccuracies and I'm beginning to wonder if someone could really think that or if you just enjoy trolling.
You didn't destroy a single thing. In fact, you've astonished me with your inaccuracies and I'm beginning to wonder if someone could really think that or if you just enjoy trolling.
You can rest assured that by the time IA-64 is aimed to the desktop (2004-2005), it'll have excellent 32-bit performance in x86.
I'm not sure you're aware about the hammer.
Hammer is a slightly modified Athlon, which in turn is a modified P6. It's not an all-new 64-bit core, it's a kludged 32-bit core using a couple decades-old instruction set with many known shortcomings. It's a cheap design that AMD could afford to do, and it looks great on paper but people are already whining about keeping x86 alive...
Hammer is a slightly modified Athlon, which in turn is a modified P6. It's not an all-new 64-bit core, it's a kludged 32-bit core using a couple decades-old instruction set with many known shortcomings. It's a cheap design that AMD could afford to do, and it looks great on paper but people are already whining about keeping x86 alive...
MHz is not the only determinant of "strength" in a processor. You could argue that the G4 is strong in "brute strength" because it's a "fat" processor that does a lot per clock.
"brute strength" is the IBM Power4. Huge, hot, but very powerful.
"brute strength" is the IBM Power4. Huge, hot, but very powerful.
Hey, no kidding?
Most PC2100 can't, actually. Most PC2100 that can is now packaged and sold as PC2700.
Most PC2100 can't, actually. Most PC2100 that can is now packaged and sold as PC2700.
DDR333 and DDR400 show about a 5-10% drop, but if you're so paranoid about pricing...
Going to an Athlon also drops performance, what's your point?
Going to an Athlon also drops performance, what's your point?
YOU were the one arguing that a P4 runs perfectly well with DDR333.
I just reminded you that using DDR with a P4 is shooting the performance.
And I'm the one that is full of innaccuracies ?
The i850 is exactly identical to the i850E, actually. The only difference is the i850E has a sticker on the box that says it can go at a 133MHz system bus (effectively 533MHz). I'm not joking, the steppings and everything are exactly identical.
YOU were the one insinsting on the comparison of what both platform has best in chipset. When I compared the i850 to KT266 you said that it was an old and obsolete chipset.
Now you say that i850 can be used as i850E because it can go to 133 MHz too. Well, my own motherboard can go up to 166 MHz, and it's not even a KT266, it's just a KT133. Either we're talking about the OFFICIAL performances, and then you have to stick to i850E and not i850, either we're talking about the UNOFFICIAL performances, and then I can select the KT266 and not the KT333. Both case Athlon's chipset is cheaper, bot cases you're wrong.
You aren't even replying to the topic anymore, just like UR does when he starts to falter. It's pathetic, really.
Moreover, you're aggressive like a unsecure teen that need to show to the world that he's trying to becoming a man.
You should ask yourself if people not staying on-topic with you is not a problem coming from you rather than they.
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