The Worthlessness of Arts Degrees

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And useful things? People that serve you your food (which isn't blue collar) or stock supermarket shelves do something useful: FEED YOU! .

I count service jobs as blue-collar. Most working-class families are now supported by them, after all...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Btw, here in the US you have a much better chance of getting in to an advanced degree program like an MBA or a PhD if you have a few years of experience in your chosen profession then you try to go straight from undergrad school.

Unless you were really good in school .

[Imran Siddiqui]

I count service jobs as blue-collar.

Most people would not.

Heh, that would mean I was a blue collar worker .

Oh, and what about Government people that make legislation that (sometimes) help people. They surely do something useful, when they, say, allow unions, or such.

[KrazyHorse]

Government occasionally manages to do something useful. Most of their time is spent chasing after interns, covering their asses or making themselves look good, though. Almost identical to average upper-management's day. Lower-management spends less time chasing interns and more time covering their asses. Between that and trips to the coffee machine their work week hovers somewhere around an hour...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Between that and trips to the coffee machine their work week hovers somewhere around an hour...

At least it is better than the half-hour that science types spend doing work .

If you can make unfair generalizations, so can I.

[KrazyHorse]

Science types do something original in their half-hour of work per day. Management's hour a week consists of rubber-stamping documents...

Science people don't go into management because it would bore them to tears. Management people don't go into science because it requires something between the ears.

[ravagon]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Of course, that old classic which, of course, gets funnier every time it is told.

'What do you say to an arts graduate?'
'Big Mac please'

We have a slightly different version...

'What's the most common phrase uttered by an arts graduate?'
'Do you want fries with that?'



[Edit: Ooops]

[ravagon]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Heh, that would mean I was a blue collar worker .

If you're going to law school you're probably destined to become an orange-collar worker.

[The Vagabond]

Thanks for your answers, Boris Godunov. Well, I am quite impressed by the fact that we have a clasical baritone vocalist here on Apolyton.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Science types do something original in their half-hour of work per day. Management's hour a week consists of rubber-stamping documents...

Science people don't go into management because it would bore them to tears. Management people don't go into science because it requires something between the ears.

Of course the management people make the money and tell the science people what to do .

Know your role

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Government occasionally manages to do something useful. Most of their time is spent chasing after interns, covering their asses or making themselves look good, though. Almost identical to average upper-management's day. Lower-management spends less time chasing interns and more time covering their asses. Between that and trips to the coffee machine their work week hovers somewhere around an hour...

I spent 1.5 years working for the U.S. Federal Government. This is blatantly not true. The vast majority of the people I worked with were extremely diligent, competent people who cared about their work and worked hard. I drove one guy home who had spend 36 hours straight at the building on a software release because he was too tired to see straight.

Much of the government stereotyping and bashing is unsubstantiated hyperbole. And the rest is exaggerations based on isolated incidents.

[Roland]

JohnT:

Thanks.

"If you don't have a B.A., B.S., or whatever, the odds of you entering law or med school are lessened..."

There is an incredibly bizarre reform draft here. All studies would be devided into bachelor-master-doctor. The bachelor (no german title for this!) would be "BA" - and the field of study. So a BA arts (BAA ?), a BA law (BAL), MA med (BAM ?) etc. Some bureucracy clowns think this is soooo international - I just think it would cause way more international confusion than our current system....

"Btw, here in the US you have a much better chance of getting in to an advanced degree program like an MBA or a PhD if you have a few years of experience in your chosen profession then you try to go straight from undergrad school."

Understand that for the PhD, but for the MBA ?

[TCO]

actually more the reverse, roland.

MBA classes include a lot team problem solving of business cases. People with less real world experience have less to contribute to the team here.

Many Ph.D. programs (sciences, arts) have students who go straight from undergrad to grad school.

[Fidel]

Originally posted by MrFun
BA degrees are definitely not worthless.

I'm going for a BA in History, then later, go for a Phd in graduate school to work towards my goal of becoming an underpaid professor and teach undergrad students U.S. history.

You SHOULD be underpaid - there's no more than 250 years of it to teach

[Imran Siddiqui]

There is an incredibly bizarre reform draft here. All studies would be devided into bachelor-master-doctor. The bachelor (no german title for this!) would be "BA" - and the field of study. So a BA arts (BAA ?), a BA law (BAL), MA med (BAM ?) etc. Some bureucracy clowns think this is soooo international - I just think it would cause way more international confusion than our current system....

Any chance of this succeeding? That does sound confusing.