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  • #76
    Albert,I'm still ten miles to the Right of any Speer.

    Most famous Conservative saying.

    NO NO NO

    (except for drug laws)
    Next to battle lost,misery is a battle gained.
    --Duke of Wellington(after Waterloo)

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Ramo
      I don't see the distinction between ethic and morals either.
      Might I recommend a viewing of "Election"?

      I don't get it either.
      "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
      "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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      • #78
        It was your parliament, actually.
        Which one? Frankfurter Paulskirche, 1848?

        One would have thought that the French Revolution would be well-covered in France...
        I have no idea to which extent the French Revolution is covered in France, but I would think as you do.


        You're just Apolyton's only Nazi
        Ecthelion, I didn't want to be so impolitely direct when complaining about his username

        Most of my views are conservative. And I've learned to carefully distinguish between right-wing and conservative. I always wonder what respect the political orientations would get if Stalin had lost tje war and Hitler won. But in this case, there were probably no chance for me to wonder , because in 1948, Hitler would have run out of Jews to burn and turned to catholics. And then my father
        Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Caligastia


          If it really is his real name then thats not what hes doing.
          If this was Counterglow I'd be declaring 100-nil for that truly breathtaking display of stating the obvious. It isn't his real name.
          The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny


            If this was Counterglow I'd be declaring 100-nil for that truly breathtaking display of stating the obvious. It isn't his real name.
            Ok then.
            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
            ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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            • #81
              I can confirm it isn't his real name. He's a true Nazi.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Ecthelion
                I can confirm it isn't his real name. He's a true Nazi.
                I didnt think I could think any less of him, but youve proven me wrong...
                ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                • #83
                  well, he might not be a literal one, or any more, but choosing that sort of name as a handle is pretty courageous for a person living in a post-war western society...

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                  • #84
                    Courageous or just stupid?
                    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                    • #85
                      Yes, I agree society should refrain for legislating morality. I guess sometimes it is unavoidable (ie, just about 100% of the population agrees morally on some issue), but it should be limited, because most moral questions are not easy to answer and there is must disagreement.

                      And there is a slight distinction between ethics and morality. Morality is the way one should live their life. Ethics are an asking of what is right or wrong. Like I said, slight... but still a distinction.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #86
                        Cali - he was 14 when he registered with that handle, but he did have enough opportunities to change the name... even nowadays (should be 17 by now) he still seems to think it's cool...

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                        • #87
                          Governments can't legislate morality, meaning that a government can't force adults to believe things that they don't want to believe in. What a government can do is teach that morality to children. It is part of the socialization process. If a government says certain things are wrong and certain things are right, and they incorporate those values into things like patriotism and political culture. Governments then teach children using those notions (through government sponsered television shows/commercials, publications, etc.) Those children will then be more inclined to believe in those government sponsored morals. It is the parent's responsibility to tell the child if they should accept those government morals, but the beliefs of society (transmitted through the media) are highly influential. Many children/adolescents challange their parents beliefs when pop culture tells them that their parent's beliefs are wrong. Children tend to internalize popular beliefs. Therefore, through the education and socialization of children, a government can legislate morals.
                          "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Ecthelion
                            Cali - he was 14 when he registered with that handle, but he did have enough opportunities to change the name... even nowadays (should be 17 by now) he still seems to think it's cool...
                            He just wants to upset people. How is that courageous?
                            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                            ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                            • #89
                              it isn't... that was some kind of understatement, it is of course stupid

                              in German it's quite common to call things "courageous" (in a certain tone) when they are stupid or cheeky

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Ecthelion
                                it isn't... that was some kind of understatement, it is of course stupid

                                in German it's quite common to call things "courageous" (in a certain tone) when they are stupid or cheeky
                                Ah, I understand. I once had a girlfriend from Liechtenstein who would say funny stuff like that.
                                ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                                ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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