The great information debate

[Lincoln]

"Now consider the permutations of DNA to be data, as the output of the algortithm"

I am considering that. What is the point?

[MrBaggins]

Stem cells become neurons, those stem cell/neurons during the developmental process are prompted by amino acids to form more or less bonds with neighbours. An area of the brain which has been prompted more will have a stronger path.

DATA... not information. The stem cells create information from the data.

[MrBaggins]

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[Lincoln]

Everything is ultimately in the DNA. There are no brains even in existance in an egg. The brain developes according to instructions in the DNA that are interpreted.

[MrBaggins]

and the instructions are data.

and the stem cells are cell neutral, and each just stupidly 'looks' for a different gene or combination of genes...

0 magic

[MrBaggins]

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[Lincoln]

They are much more than data. It is true meaningful information.

[MrBaggins]

no it contains meaningful INSTRUCTIONS (to dumb stem cells for example)

[MrBaggins]

via the generation of a-acids.

[Lincoln]

However you look at it there is meaningful information that gives meaningful instructions that are followed and they in turn give feedback information.

[MrBaggins]

a natural process... with no magic or intelligence, uses the instructions (the DNA data) to build a replica of those instructions... effectively the process is a natural data processing event.

and the resultant cell structures are the information.

[MrBaggins]

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[Lincoln]

Well yes it is natural. But it is based upon information just as we could say that a computer runs naturally (or automatically). But the source is still intelligent value judgments so that the program can run and communicate (either with a person or another computer.

[MrBaggins]

stop saying DNA is information.

Giving that it could have spontaneously combined.

[MrBaggins]

There could be lots of erroneous DNA...

You are considering all DNA to be perfect... we are not.

erroneous DNA would mean nothing... just a missed chance... a useless lottery ticket.