Editor of New Republic on Euro anti-semitism

[TCO]

Agreed it is not the same. But it still seems like a point of commonality.

[Ming]

We have enough in common as it is. We both believe that you should work hard and play hard. And both of us develop some real loyal staffs

[TCO]

Hey...about that secretary...

[Ming]

I had one for over 15 years... but I will admit the new one looks really fine

[TCO]

Who's your buddy....

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Hardly that respected a journal.

Originally posted by Roland
Shouldn' t that be: "How does that compare with other major satire magazines?"

Originally posted by paiktis22
The most funny are the magazines that think they're serious - like this one
Entertainment guaranteed

Originally posted by Ming

Originally posted by GP
Could you comment a little more on the audiences targeted, Ming? Decision makers?

While it did vary some by campaign, over all, our key audiences were:

Executive Branch

The Senate
- Senior Aides
- Junior Aides
- All those that influence them

DOD
Joint Chiefs
Individual Services
Military bases near Washington

Key Lobbyist Groups
Media
Think Tanks
MDC employees

We used to do our own "readership" studies against these audiences. No surprise, The WP was read regularly by almost 95% of the people we wanted to reach... With the WSJ coming in second... Followed by Defense News, and then the all the opinion leader and trade journals. General media like Time and Newsweek also did well, and we usually bought those on a DC Metro basis only. Radio stations like WTOP were also solid. We would also spend heavily on the Sunday Morning Talking Head programs, which are a must viewing for our audience.

Now, other media companies have done similar studies which support all the early research that I had done.

...now that's comedy!

[mindseye]

Reagarding The New Republic, I think it's an exceptional magazine. I subscribed for over twenty years, the only reason I stopped is because I moved to China (now I have to read the scaled-down web version).

TNR consistantly provides thought-provoking stories covering a very wide range of topics. My only complaint was their editorial policy, which was so pro-Isreal that I felt they had little credibility in this area. Unfortunatley, that's the sole example in this thread.

Hooray for TNR, going strong since 1916!

[Adam Smith]

Originally posted by Ming
And, we were the first Defense Contractor to EVER sponser the Traffic reports in Washington... My idea

Now the man is messing around with my radio. Another example of Ming's pervasive infleunce.

[Dr Strangelove]

I'm just wondering, regarding the international scene and Europe's role in the ME conflict. Recent elections in France showed a growing shift to the right. Is this a result of a popular rejection of the French government's pro-palestinian stance, a new wave of anti-semitism, or completely unrelated to the ME?

[Roland]

Antisemitism as in anti-arabism is a lot more important to Le Pen's follower than antijudaism. But there are two components in right wing populist votes: genuine supporters, and protest voters. And with the Cohabitation, scandals, and barely a difference between socialists and gaullists, there was plenty to protest. It will be extremely interesting how the 2nd round goes - this is an unprecedented situation....

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Roland
Antisemitism as in anti-arabism is a lot more important to Le Pen's follower than antijudaism. But there are two components in right wing populist votes: genuine supporters, and protest voters. And with the Cohabitation, scandals, and barely a difference between socialists and gaullists, there was plenty to protest. It will be extremely interesting how the 2nd round goes - this is an unprecedented situation....

I wonder if it is likely to be repeated elsewhere in Europe. Could it be that the governments of the EU are way out of synch with the feelings of the people on the ME conflict? Maybe you guys shouldn't piss off the Elders of Zion.

[Roland]

"Is this a result of a popular rejection of the French government's pro-palestinian stance"

"Could it be that the governments of the EU are way out of synch with the feelings of the people on the ME conflict?"

People would vote Le Pen to get a more pro-Israel policy ?

I have no idea what mechanism you suspect there, but the ME conflict is a side issue in elections.

[Dry]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I'm just wondering, regarding the international scene and Europe's role in the ME conflict. Recent elections in France showed a growing shift to the right. Is this a result of a popular rejection of the French government's pro-palestinian stance, a new wave of anti-semitism, or completely unrelated to the ME?

My opinion is no, no, no (in this order).
Lepen is much more anti-arabs than anti-semite (at least in his speach: in facts, he is also anti-semitic).
But he is surely pro-Israel. He likes the way Israel deals with Palestinians. He says that this should be the way France should deal with immigration. And many of the right wing in France (not only France) agree with that.
With the terrorist image put on the Palestinians by Israel and the US, Lepen and his followers have the proof of what they say since ages: all arabs are criminals, insecurity in France comes from the arabs/muslims.
So today's success of Lepen is well related to the ME, but in the way of: look how it IS possible to get rid of arabs/immigration/insecurity.

But I deeply think that the FN is also anti-semitic. Remember that for a nationalist, the motto is everyone back in his country. They like Israel, because it is a where the jews should go back. He will chase the french jews away of France for the simple reason of 'Jews go home'. Once they are all in Israel, he will be happy.
I see no contradiction in being anti-semitic and pro-Israel.

[lord of the mark]

I was not trolling. i read a powerful piece, and thought i would share it here. I must admit that anti-semitism in Europe is something i post about alot - i lost a great-grandparent to european anti-semitism, and my wife lost 3 of 4 grandparents to it. It matters to me. If it doesnt matter to you, you have the option not to read the thread.

TNR IS, I think consistently the best opinion/analysis mag in the states. Peretz, the editor/publisher, does allow himself the liberty of being emotional/polemical on issues effecting Jews and Israel. I would point out however that the mag is not hardline on Israel - they generally oppose Likud, and have had some scathing anti-Likud articles in the past. They have tended to be sceptical of Pere's vision of a "new middle east", in large part because of the economic determinism they see behind it - they tend to be VERY hardline about the primacy of the political over the economic - so even though they often support liberal policies, they are intellectually very anti-marxist. The very influential literary editor, Leon Weiseltier, is Jewish, and is married to a Sunni muslim.

These magazines are small but influential. In particular the editors,columnists, and reporters of the mainstream press - the Wash Post, the New York Time, the Boston Globe, the WSJ, the networks, etc tend to read them. Persuasive arguments in them can impact the entire national dialogue.

I thought the points made were interesting, and expected that some might respond substantively.

LOTM

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by loinburger


I call them "one trick ponies", and most trolls qualify under that heading because coming up with exciting new trolls is often a difficult process, whereas using the same troll over and over again is much easier and faster.

a troll posts to stir things up. If i wished to do so, there are many things i could post on, from Macedonian politics to civ3. that however is not my purpose - I actually believe, (at least in some moments) that posting here might change minds.

I am sorry that posting Mr. Peretz unrestrained and provactive (though i think justified) rhetoric did not achieve that impact, and was seen as a troll. I can (and will) certainly find cogent arguments expressed in more diplomatic language.

LOTM