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  • A lot of commentators have remarked on the historically high 28% absenteeism rate and what a tragedy it is. Here in the US if the absenteeism rate was only 28% it would be a miracle--it's usually more like 50%. In many state and local elections only about a third of the people show up to vote.

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    • One note on Le Pen. He is extreme right, but very anti American.
      Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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      • Originally posted by Saint Marcus
        One note on Le Pen. He is extreme right, but very anti American.
        He's French. The two ideas seem to go hand in hand from what I've seen of thier politics.
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        • anti-americanism is another word for "logical thinking"

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          • He's French. The two ideas seem to go hand in hand from what I've seen of thier politics.
            Yes, just about all French politicians aren't too friendly towards the USA, but Le Pen is far worse than Jospin or Chirac.
            Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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            • Originally posted by Saint Marcus


              Yes, just about all French politicians aren't too friendly towards the USA, but Le Pen is far worse than Jospin or Chirac.
              I'm not sure there would be any noticible difference in France's policies....
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              • One note on Le Pen. He is extreme right, but very anti American.
                you seem to be surprised.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • Originally posted by paiktis22
                  anti-americanism is another word for "logical thinking"
                  Complete bull****. Europeans do many things completely ass backwards from logic. Replace "logical thinking" for "socialist drivel" or "irresponsibilty" or "reaction" and you'll probably be closer to the truth. Don't even get me started on this topic.

                  It seems that European nationalities are not reproducing enough to replenish their populations. Combine the near universal acceptance of abortion in Europe (an issue that is NOT about women's equality, no matter how you want to twist it), with a general disdain for the importance of the traditional family (possibly from the rejection of religion by many Europeans), plus a large acceptance of "alternative lifestyles", and you get the drastically falling birth rates of Europe. I don't blame people for voting for LePen. He seems to want to bring France back to its sense and get rid of the socialism that has been dragging it down for the past century. I don't care if he's anti-American. He doesn't have to be pro-American. A French President should be Pro-French first and foremost. France before Europe, France before America, as much as I believe that President Bush should be Pro- American, and should do what best benefits America, regardless of what Luxembourg or Syria or Mongolia, or any other country wants us to do. That is why I just chuckle when I see Europeans protesting America in the streets. Here's a news flash: many Americans don't give a damn what others think about us, ESPECIALLY France. We'll be executing criminals, protecting our 2nd amendment laws, protesting abortion, going to church, etc., long after the European countries have Arabic for their official language.
                  "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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                  • I don't read sh!t

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                    • he's got a point, paiktis, many of them... or are those called spots?

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                      • Originally posted by paiktis22
                        well the US has had Le Pen fascist types in power since its creation (not so long ago) so ofcourse you're laughing stupid yankee
                        You seriously need to take a few history classes. Yes, all Americans are fascist, an always have been, while European nations have always been ran by peace loving green socialist hippies. Plain stupid. Have you ever heard of people such as Thomas Jefferson. Or have you heard of people such as Napoleon III. Name an American Fascist President, and I'll officially become a Communist, burn my bible, pardon every criminal (because there is no right and wrong, you know) make my pregnant wife get an abortion, and stop thinking for myself. Isn't that what it would take to become an Enlightened European like yourself, paiktis? I hope LePen becomes President of France, just to humble arrogant, self-righteous, leftist clones like yourself.
                        "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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                        • nationalist I don't read what you post. Because you respond to my trolls.

                          Don't tire yourself

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                          • I don't blame people for voting for LePen. He seems to want to bring France back to its sense and get rid of the socialism that has been dragging it down for the past century.
                            Incidentally, Le Pen's said that economically, he's on the left.

                            Combine the near universal acceptance of abortion in Europe (an issue that is NOT about women's equality, no matter how you want to twist it), with a general disdain for the importance of the traditional family (possibly from the rejection of religion by many Europeans), plus a large acceptance of "alternative lifestyles", and you get the drastically falling birth rates of Europe.
                            Well, what is to be done? Ban abortion, put the little lady back between the fist and the stove where she belongs, have religion mandated by state and keep gays so far back in closet they're about to meet Aslan, and by Jebus, we'll surely beat those anti-woman, anti-gay, intolerant religious Moslem fanatics by then? Is this one of those things where you beat the enemy by turning into the enemy?
                            Last edited by Stefu; April 22, 2002, 15:21.
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                            • Nationalist: hint; some posts (and posters) shouldn't be taken seriously....

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                              • (what do we use to say about americans and their ability to grasp sarcasms? )

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