Europe's Shame

[Kitschum]

Re: Europe's Shame

Originally posted by Lincoln
I find it shameful that in France, the France of Liberty-Equality-Fraternity, they burn synagogues, terrorize Jews, profane their cemeteries. I find it shameful that the youth of Holland and Germany and Denmark flaunt the kaffiah just as Mussolini's avant garde used to flaunt the club and the fascist badge. I find it shameful that in nearly all the universities of Europe Palestinian students sponsor and nurture anti-semitism. That in Sweden they asked that the Nobel Peace Prize given to Shimon Peres in 1994 be taken back and conferred on the dove with the olive branch in his mouth, that is on Arafat. I find it shameful that the distinguished members of the Committee, a Committee that (it would appear) rewards political color rather than merit, should take this request into consideration and even respond to it. In hell the Nobel Prize honors he who does not receive it.

The Nobel Peace Prize is not Swedish, it's Norwegian.

[Ecthy]

You're not that good in rhetorics, Spray...

I must admit I've never seen such empty posts built up with so many words and phrases before.

[Sprayber]

Re: You're not that good in rhetorics, Spray...

Originally posted by Ecthelion
I must admit I've never seen such empty posts built up with so many words and phrases before.

You should look at you own posts more

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny
Have you spent the last 18 months with your eyes closed and your fingers firmly wedged in your ears, DinoDoc?

No I have not, Bugs. I genuinely have not seen any action coming from the EU, which is the single largest donor to the PA, that compares to the cries of war crimes, threatening of trade sanctions that we are currently seeing coming from both government circles and the general public. Please correct me on this point if I'm wrong.

[Ecthy]

The very fact you're using a sunglasses smiley as message icon questions your credibility, DD

Sprayber, as I have said before, the one post you quoted from doesn't come close to what I usually contribute. It's just 2 lines of messing about in a big thread of discussion, have you nothing better to do than getting on the nerves of other people by rubbing theÃr noses in every breadcrumb on the table?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
The very fact you're using a sunglasses smiley as message icon questions your credibility, DD

Is that better now, my little German friend?

[Ecthy]

Yes. You may pass now.

[Natan]

Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny
It's one hell of a PR victory for Sharon if all criticism of his government is now viewed as an attack on the Jewish people and faith. I had genuinely no idea that he was the voice, the soul and the conscience of all Jewish people and thought.

And what about when any talk about anti-Semitism is considered Zionist propaganda and support for Ariel Sharon?

Ecthelion, how would you know if German Jews were scared? Have you talked to any lately?

[Sava]

Originally posted by David Floyd


I fully agree.

And speaking of firebombing civilians, it's hypocritical that we try people like Milosevic for crimes against humanity, while people who were responsible for similiar amounts of civilian death, such as former US Gen. Curtis LeMay, are held as heroes.

RIGHT ON!!!

Serbs rule!

[Ecthy]

Originally posted by Natan
Ecthelion, how would you know if German Jews were scared? Have you talked to any lately?

You're right. I haven't. So they must be scared.

As a matter of fact, their representatives in Germany (yes Natan, there is such a thing as the Central Council of Jews in Germany and they're a bunch of whiners) whine about just anything. They're the ones that complain about latent anti-semitism (I didn't know I'm hateful towards Jews until they told me, odd) and anything, but they don't complain about a majority of the German population persecute them. It's a fact that can't be denied we've got some real misdirected teens in the country that flame Jews and attack placed that a man with honor just doesn't attack (such as graves, holocaust memorials at KZ sites etc), but that doesn't make them scared, because it doesn't. I find it laughable how you demand me to provide evidence for them not beign scared while you just buy into a madman's statement. You believe it because it's pro-Jewish and an article. I can alsowrite an article if I want, but I don't because I can't be arsed (which is not an argument for your cause). However I'm not willing to become pro-Jewish on any expense just because of some "historical shame". Because that I need for sophisticated analysis and debating of relevant issues, such as growing anti-semitism amongst misguided teens.

The main problem is indeed being called an anti-semitist if you speak realisticly.

[Ecthy]

Originally posted by Sava
RIGHT ON!!!

Serbs rule!

Some day I'll come up with a saying like "Stupid man's sarcasm is like..." and then something that contains the point. And the point is that there's nothing more ludicrous than averagey intelligent people trying to be sarcastic.

Did he say he supports Milosevic? No, he said he doesn't support hypocrisy. But some people just an't live without foe images and a black and white world.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Ecthelion


Some day I'll come up with a saying like "Stupid man's sarcasm is like..." and then something that contains the point. And the point is that there's nothing more ludicrous than averagey intelligent people trying to be sarcastic.

Did he say he supports Milosevic? No, he said he doesn't support hypocrisy. But some people just an't live without foe images and a black and white world.

I'm congratulating him on his recognition of the blatant hypocrisy. I don't support Milosevic. I said SERBS RULE, not Milosevic rules. Because we do, and he doesn't .

[Natan]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
You're right. I haven't. So they must be scared.

Did I say that they must be scared? I just indicated that your rejection of the possibility out of hand is on shaky ground.

As a matter of fact, their representatives in Germany (yes Natan, there is such a thing as the Central Council of Jews in Germany and they're a bunch of whiners) whine about just anything. They're the ones that complain about latent anti-semitism (I didn't know I'm hateful towards Jews until they told me, odd) and anything, but they don't complain about a majority of the German population persecute them. It's a fact that can't be denied we've got some real misdirected teens in the country that flame Jews and attack placed that a man with honor just doesn't attack (such as graves, holocaust memorials at KZ sites etc), but that doesn't make them scared, because it doesn't.

So it takes a bigoted majority to make people afraid?

I find it laughable how you demand me to provide evidence for them not beign scared while you just buy into a madman's statement. You believe it because it's pro-Jewish and an article.

Nice presumption. Are all German Jews quivering in fear as a result of constant pogroms and boycotts of Jewish stores organized by a resurgent Nazi party supported by the German public? Of course not, no such thing is true. But I'm sure that some German Jews are scared because I've read interviews with them in several publications, and I'm not talking about this sort of opinion piece.

I can alsowrite an article if I want, but I don't because I can't be arsed (which is not an argument for your cause). However I'm not willing to become pro-Jewish on any expense just because of some "historical shame". Because that I need for sophisticated analysis and debating of relevant issues, such as growing anti-semitism amongst misguided teens.

The main problem is indeed being called an anti-semitist if you speak realisticly.

This part doesn't seem very clear to me. Could you explain what you mean here?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Natan
And what about when any talk about anti-Semitism is considered Zionist propaganda and support for Ariel Sharon?

As a number of European posters pointed out, there is no anti-Semitism in Europe. That means the majority of the population don't hate Jews.

Even a French Jew wrote about it. Then again, he might just be a PA operative running a disinformation campaign. There really is massive anti-Semitism in Europe and the Jews got killed in droves.

[Natan]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
As a number of European posters pointed out, there is no anti-Semitism in Europe.

I suppose that the synagogue in Marsielle burned itself down?

That means the majority of the population don't hate Jews.

Didn't I just agree that that the majority of the population doesn't hate Jews?

Even a French Jew wrote about it.

Woop-de-doo. An Arab-American wrote in favor of racial profiling at airports and said there was no signifigant anti-Arab racism in America. So what?

Then again, he might just be a PA operative running a disinformation campaign. There really is massive anti-Semitism in Europe and the Jews got killed in droves.

Again, the same linkage to the middle east which I already rejected, and of course, the old favorite of bashing a strawman.