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  • AA? What AA? After 25 years of trying, US media still fails diversity test

    A study by the Boston Globe has found that the US newspaper are still predominately white, even in communities with large non-white populations.



    (The story includes lists of newspapers and diversity score)

    This story shows that as much as companies talk about affirmative action, most companies fail to do anything about it. As well, it puts to rest the idea that the playing field is level in the United States, that whites are being deprived of jobs, or that the US no longer needs AA.


    "If newspapers are a mirror that a community holds up to itself, the reflection is mostly white."

    " Only because payrolls shrank in the recession, with more white journalists taking buyouts, did the percentage of minorities in newsrooms increase to 12 percent, compared with 31 percent of the US population. Nearly half of the nation's newspapers employ no minority reporters, editors, artists, or photographers."

    This failure is all the more striking given that 25 years ago the American Society of Newspaper Editors set a goal of having their newsrooms as diverse as the communites served by the newspaper.

    "The 1,448 daily papers include 125 that meet or exceed their community's minority diversity; 216 that are at least halfway to parity; 285 that employ some minorities but are less than halfway to the goal; 530 that reported no minority journalists on their latest survey; and 292 newspapers that won't say."
    Golfing since 67

  • #2
    Affirmative Action: Reverse Racism at its finest.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #3
      Re: AA? What AA? After 25 years of trying, US media still fails diversity test

      Originally posted by Tingkai
      This story shows that as much as companies talk about affirmative action, most companies fail to do anything about it.
      By "companies," do you mean "newspaper companies", or do you mean "all companies"?

      As well, it puts to rest the idea that the playing field is level in the United States, that whites are being deprived of jobs, or that the US no longer needs AA.
      So the fact that one industry hasn't diversified proves that all industries haven't diversified? You seem to be using an awfully large brush here...
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      • #4
        The Canadian Government still rigorously applies "minority quotas" to its workforce. It's gotten so ridiculous with so many minorities that it's almost making white people themselves a minority within the government jobs.

        Take one look at the CBC and you'll see what I mean.
        Or if you ever have to negotiate with provinces as a business the chances of talking to a white person are virtually nill.

        Affirmative Action and minority quotas are nothing but racism. I think we've progressed to the point where nobody cares what color your skin is when you apply for the job, as long as you do the job as per its description.

        Putting in less qualified people on the basis of meeting a quota is shameful to everyone involved.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Asher
          The Canadian Government still rigorously applies "minority quotas" to its workforce. It's gotten so ridiculous with so many minorities that it's almost making white people themselves a minority within the government jobs.
          Do you have any stats to back up your wild statements?

          The Canadian gov't AA system only requires companies to report the diversity make up of their employees. If they don't report, the companies can't get contracts to work for the government. If they do report, and even if their workforce is 100 per cent of one group, they can stil get federal contracts.
          Golfing since 67

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          • #6
            Re: Re: AA? What AA? After 25 years of trying, US media still fails diversity test

            Originally posted by loinburger
            So the fact that one industry hasn't diversified proves that all industries haven't diversified? You seem to be using an awfully large brush here...
            It is one industry within the US and it is an example of how industry leaders often talk about affirmative action and yet do not walk the talk.
            Golfing since 67

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            • #7
              Is this good or bad?

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              • #8
                No, I don't have any stats to back up my "wild" statements, just eyes and experience.

                And I'm not talking about simple crown corporation-type government, I'm talking actual government employees.

                I've seen pictures from negotiations my dad had with the governments of Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, and Alberta. Literally zero white people on the government's end of the table, many of them were native, and the others other assorted minorities. Some quick mental math tells you that this is some freak statistical anomalie in three provinces in a row, or the government's minority quotas are insane.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #9
                  Is this White people's fault? Or is it the Jews that control the media?



                  (I just found out today that the Jews control US media. So it must be their fault.)
                  Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Asher
                    No, I don't have any stats to back up my "wild" statements, just eyes and experience.

                    And I'm not talking about simple crown corporation-type government, I'm talking actual government employees.

                    I've seen pictures from negotiations my dad had with the governments of Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, and Alberta. Literally zero white people on the government's end of the table, many of them were native, and the others other assorted minorities. Some quick mental math tells you that this is some freak statistical anomalie in three provinces in a row, or the government's minority quotas are insane.
                    Sometimes you can't rely on your own experiences.

                    In a 2000 report, 5.9 per cent of the Canadian public service were visible minorities in 1999. Visible minorities made up 8.7 per cent of the Canadian labour market that year.



                    I'd say that proves you're way off the mark when you claim that:"It's gotten so ridiculous with so many minorities that it's almost making white people themselves a minority within the government jobs."

                    Whites still make up 94 per cent of the public service so they're hardly a minority.
                    Golfing since 67

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                    • #11

                      That's weird.
                      In my area I'm a visible minority as a white male.

                      Maybe the Federal statistics are very skewed by Ontario?

                      Because in Alberta and BC, at least, the percentage of "visible minority" is WAY higher than 8.7% of the labour market.

                      Something's extremely fishy about that report.

                      How did they define visible minority?

                      And anyone who takes Calgary Transit will tell you that the majority of bus drivers are certainly not white either. I'm having a really hard time believing anyting in that report, because everything I've seen comes nowhere close to matching their numbers.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #12
                        This is probably why the numbers are extremely misleading:
                        A major barrier to increased representation public service wide, is that some of the largest departments have among the lowest representation...
                      • National Defence
                      • Correctional Services
                      • Fisheries and Oceans
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Asher

                        That's weird.
                        In my area I'm a visible minority as a white male.

                        Maybe the Federal statistics are very skewed by Ontario?

                        Because in Alberta and BC, at least, the percentage of "visible minority" is WAY higher than 8.7% of the labour market.

                        Something's extremely fishy about that report.

                        How did they define visible minority?

                        And anyone who takes Calgary Transit will tell you that the majority of bus drivers are certainly not white either. I'm having a really hard time believing anyting in that report, because everything I've seen comes nowhere close to matching their numbers.
                        First off, the report deals with the federal workers, not local bus drivers.

                        In what way would Ontario skew the results. There are more minorities in Ontario than in Alberta.

                        Your perception is distorted by your subjective judgement. If you see a couple of Native bus drivers, you think there are a lot. I would think why aren't there more.

                        The only places in Canada where whites are a minority are on Native reserves. Even in Toronto, which has the largest population of visible minorities, whites are still in the majority.

                        You claim you're a minority in your area. What are the stats?
                        Golfing since 67

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                        • #14
                          The three departments, Citizenship, Revenue Canada, and Health Canada, with the largest representation of visible minorities still have less than 10 per cent of these people.

                          Ironically, only 6.6 per cent of the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs are visible minorities. In other words, there are not that many Natives working in the department that is supposed to look after their interests.
                          Golfing since 67

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                          • #15
                            There are more minorities in Ontario than in Alberta.
                            Have you spent much time in Alberta in the past decade? Particularly NW Calgary?

                            Your perception is distorted by your subjective judgement. If you see a couple of Native bus drivers, you think there are a lot. I would think why aren't there more.
                            Err....no, the thing is it's rare to see a white bus driver.
                            I'm used to seeing a minority bus-driver, if it's a white guy it's a complete surprise.

                            The only places in Canada where whites are a minority are on Native reserves. Even in Toronto, which has the largest population of visible minorities, whites are still in the majority.

                            You claim you're a minority in your area. What are the stats?
                            I don't care for stats, but I went to a high school of 2000 people (Sir Winston Churchill High, for Zylka or any other Calgarian that reads this), and literally about 40% the school was Oriental, and about 20-30% East Indian/Pakistani, which left whites to having a minority 30-40%.

                            I don't know if they do regional, but NW Calgary has a very heavy concentration of "minorities". Abnormally so.

                            Also, check out some of the numbers on that report. Am I reading this right when it say "40.4%" for Visible Minorites in "Administrative & Foreign service" jobs?

                            and...

                            Overall the visible minority population within the public service occupy a higher proportion of what would be considered the knowledge jobs in the public service (63.5%) than do non-visible minorities (52.6%)
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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