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  • Trying to implie that Bush dleiberately let 911 happen (as McKinney has) is crap. McKinney is an idiot. Plus she's taking money from Muslim groups...

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    • People saying that Bush should have prevented this are monday morn ing quarterbacks. Nobody expected this. It was a complete shock to the nation.

      McKinney doesn't support our war in Afghansitan. She is way too chummy with some people who hate the US.

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      • This is one of the most entertaining threads I have read in a long time.

        Now that the shock of 9-11 is over with, both parties are trying to use it to there advantage, which is not surprising.

        WFHermans, it seems most of the information you base what you say comes form the internet mostly. Anyone can put anything they want on the internet, they have no editor or fact checkers to see if what they say is true. People put all kind of stuff on the internet that they just make up one day in there head, and make people think that it is fact, and many many people do this. The internet has a lot of inaccurate info and junk on it, so I would suggest that people who provided links to other sites that provide proof to what they are saying first check to see if it is accurate.
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        • don't try to answer to WFHermans. He's a Nazi. I think his banning isn't over yet.
          urgh.NSFW

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          • Originally posted by Dalgetti
            don't try to answer to WFHermans. He's a Nazi. I think his banning isn't over yet.
            I wouldn't know... MtG banned him, and didn't post the proper paperwork, so I have no clue for how long it was for...
            And I'm not going to ask...
            Keep on Civin'
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            • I wonder why people are so quick to believe everything they read on the internet. I remember hearing on a spanish news program were they were trying to say that there was a ufo flying around the WTC when the planes crashed into it. Even on mainstream media you have to be carefull with the accuracy of what they report. It is good to relly on many sources of infomation, that way if one the source you use is wrong you will know form the other sources you use.
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              • @ Ming... hey , you forgot it , these things happen ..

                Jack: I think it's more than him seeing lots of sites that are well , anti-semitic ( for example , the explanation of the ' ^ ' sign on armor, as actually forming mentally a star of david , and thus making people think that the jews are strong and powerful , and influencing their subconscious. That and the good ol' "jews are vampires that suck blood "routine.) . I think this amounts to more that scepticism on what the mainstream news show, if you know what I mean.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV
                  What's so sad about this is the way the Vice President is acting. Don't make anything of this?!? I do believe it was the republicans who wasted several million investigating a blowjob. Now their retarded leader Bush screws up and we're not to look into it. Things sure are different now. Double standard or what??
                  That was $73,000,000.00 The moldy trail started with a shady 1985 Arkansas land deal. The dogged investigators followed the clues all the way to a semen stain on a dress. That is an investigation worthy of the great Sherlock Holmes himself.

                  What was the name of that story again? Oh yeah, "A Taste of Power in the Oral Office," with a special guest star appearance by Ken Starr as the peeping tom.
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                  • Originally posted by GP
                    McKinney is an idiot. Trust me.
                    hi ,

                    take that to the bank , ........

                    topic ; they could have know , Massoud , a leader in Afganistan was killed ,........ a couple of killers , with belgian passports , not a big deal , BUT , the Defense Intel Agency reported the plans in june , ........; from their office in belgium , .......a lot of links from europe , a lot of red flags , and nothing happend , ......strange , ...

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                    • Originally posted by GP


                      What kind of shipyard worker are you if you don't know how to "appropriate" a few items like that!
                      I don't even have a foul weather Jacket. The fire, we had many. I may not have hear about your or did hear and forgot all about it. Way back in the early 70s I was in a car going to lunch. The owner had some thing in the car that could have cause a lot of trouble for me just being in the car. So I told myself never again will I put myself in danger of being fired for anything or anyone. It was not drugs.

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                      • Originally posted by MosesPresley
                        A planned hijacking by a known terrorist such as Bin Laden should have been taken very seriously.
                        Do you know how many time the Military received a threat. At Mare Island we received hundreds over the years. They did not tell us about evey one, but some we were told to be on the lookout for anyone we did not know asking about the Yard.

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                        • Lets put ourselves in the shoes of the President for a minute. You receive information that there appears to be a terrorist threat to hijack a plane. What do you do? You don't know any specifics only that they may hijack a plane. I would assume that you pass that information to the FBI or NTSB or the like. Do you really believe they should have made a public statement? They could not and did not know what was in store. If the government tells the people of all threats they receive, we would not be able to function.

                          I think this is more a breakdown of of numerous government agencies across all party lines. The inept INS letting folks inth the US who have no business being there, the student visas and so forth. The NTSB for allowing people to take flying lessons that do not involve take-off and landings, The CIA for not having people in place to learn and pass important info along. Some knucklehead from Marin California can join the Taliban but they can't get an agent or two in there? Then you have the pathetic airline security folks. Come on poorly trained and poorly paid workers not skilled to properly protect the public. Then there is the FBI. They had one of the hijackers in their possession for prior crimes, they had an eye witness James Woods who saw the hijackers during one of their "dry runs" and he reported what he saw to the FBI.

                          This is not about GWB, Bill Clinton, liberals or conservatives. Its about large, inept government bureaucracies that need to be fixed.
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                          • Originally posted by schmoowithazing
                            I would assume that you pass that information to the FBI or NTSB or the like. Do you really believe they should have made a public statement? They could not and did not know what was in store. If the government tells the people of all threats they receive, we would not be able to function.

                            I think this is more a breakdown of of numerous government agencies across all party lines. The inept INS letting folks inth the US who have no business being there, the student visas and so forth. The NTSB for allowing people to take flying lessons that do not involve take-off and landings, The CIA for not having people in place to learn and pass important info along. Some knucklehead from Marin California can join the Taliban but they can't get an agent or two in there? Then you have the pathetic airline security folks. Come on poorly trained and poorly paid workers not skilled to properly protect the public. Then there is the FBI. They had one of the hijackers in their possession for prior crimes, they had an eye witness James Woods who saw the hijackers during one of their "dry runs" and he reported what he saw to the FBI.

                            This is not about GWB, Bill Clinton, liberals or conservatives. Its about large, inept government bureaucracies that need to be fixed.
                            You mean the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration). NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) is for accident investigation only.
                            You are correct about GWB, I hate to say it Clinton and others. The two FBI memo never went to the President, NSA, or any other top division and never to the CIA. Part of the CIA problem goes back to the Carter admin. when he and Sen Frank Church did away with most of our field operators and then pass laws so the CIA could not hire undesirable (bad people) to work for us.
                            Last edited by Guest; May 17, 2002, 23:08.

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                            • Originally posted by joseph1944
                              I don't even have a foul weather Jacket.
                              I took mine from G-boat to Drum...and than, well...who on Drum was going to want a jacket that said Guitarro on it!

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                              • "I don't even have a foul weather Jacket."

                                I had one from the Charr that I used as a blanket for years. I must have finally worn it out after about 20 years. I forgot what happened to it. I guess it was kind of like a blankie to me.

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