Siro goes to to pre-military training

[Sirotnikov]

Since I am supposed to be drafted to the IDF in a year and some, and I'm currently in 11th grade (out of 12), time has come for military training.

Until now it was made in 12th grade, but the military decided to make it earlier, to allow for better integration with army standards and rules.


What does it mean?

It means that on April 28th, in the morning, me and my classmates and several other classes of the 11th grade, will be taken for 5 days to a military base in the Negev.

What will we do there?
- Hear lectures about IDF, stadards, behaviour, rules etc.
- Do some very basic military training, to become familiar with military routine.


We are allowed to take pictures, and I'll probably do so and post here.



Any advice from the military pros?

[Kropotkin]

Thumb rule number one: 75% of all officers are insecure bastards that couldn't function in the real world. Number two: don't get brainwashed (or more so )

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, it could be worse, Krop. He could think the same as Eli .

[David Floyd]

No offense, but you shouldn't let your government violate your natural rights like that. I'd dodge.

[Eli]

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àæ âà áàøõ îçðëéà éìãéà ìîìçîä îâéì öòéø.
äéùøàìéà úàáé äãà äàìä îàùéîéà àú äôìñèéðéÃ, àáì âà ôä îìîãéà éìãéà áëéúä "éà ìéøåú áàî-ùù òùøä.

àðé ôåçã ùëùðúòåøø îçø, ðîöà àú òöîðå îåì àéæä îàä äåãòåú áñâðåï äæä.

[Eli]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yeah, it could be worse, Krop. He could think the same as Eli .

I'm the one who managed to dodge it.

[Kropotkin]

Eli is a true leader and role model, screaming for blood and at the same time hiding behind his mothers skirts like a little kid.

[red_jon]

I'd dodge draft unless there was a serious war.

But then I'd be useless in the army anyway.

[Eli]

Actually, it's not really "training". The goal of the whole thingie is to reduce the shock you get when joining the army.

They prefer you to learn that, as Kropotkin said, 75% of the officers are morons, in the easy way. And that if you go combatant you shouldnt expect for anything better than a tent.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by red_jon
But then I'd be useless in the army anyway.

How would that be different from your civilian life?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by David Floyd
No offense, but you shouldn't let your government violate your natural rights like that. I'd dodge.

No offense, but it's selfish cowards hiding behind high rhetoric of who've assisted in the downfall and destruction of the societies and cultures they're a part of. A lot of places in the world have no real security threats, or else have an abundance of people who will do their part, to cover for the selfish yellow-bellies. Some parts of the world don't have that luxury.

There aren't any ****ing "natural rights" when you've got your back to the sea and a whole bunch of pissed off people with Kalashnikovs in your face who want to see you and your family and your people all swim.

And what "natural rights" are those, DF? The right to **** around with other people because it's entertaining? Where did that "right" come from. Let's not go into your little escapade, shall we?

Eli - did you get out of the whole deal, or just this little fun in the sun boyscout exercise?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Eli - did you get out of the whole deal, or just this little fun in the sun boyscout exercise?

IIRC, he lied on a test so that he could get out of any possible frontline duty and so he wouldn't scare his mom.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Good luck, and if you ever see action don't try to be a hero.

[orange]

Originally posted by red_jon
I'd dodge draft unless there was a serious war.

But then I'd be useless in the army anyway.

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In the US you'd have no problem escaping the military.

Don't ask Don't tell

[Lincoln]

"Any advice from the military pros?"

I am not really a "pro" but my little tour during the Vietnam war sneaking around in a submarine taught me to grin and bear it. Military experience is very useful in later life because you learn to discipline yourself as you are forced into doing things that you really would prefer not to do. Follow orders unless you really think that you are fighting for an imoral cause. In that case then you will probably have to go to jail. If you are going in and you are behind the effort then do what you are told. The time to question is now not after you are in a military structure. A lot of people suddenly become conciencious objectors when they get scared. The best way to overcome fear is to do what you must anyway. Eventually fear becomes something you just walk over. And God be with you my friend. My tour was not the high point of my life morally but God seemed to use it for good later.