What would be YOUR solution to the Israel Palestinian conflict?

[Bosh]

what Imran said

[Dr Strangelove]

The Europeans started this whole mess by persecuting the Jews clean out of Europe. I propose that the Europeans clean up their mess by having each 50 to 100 citizens of Europe (the EU + Eastern Europe + Russia) adopt one Israeli or Palestinian. It would be up to this group to see to the welfare of their charge, and to restrain him (or her) whenever necessary. Such an action on the part of the Europeans will surely earn them the love and respect of the rest of the world, particularily the muslim parts. Who knows it could be the beginning of European hegemony over the whole world.

[Evil_Eric_4]

Good one Strangelove

Have the Israelis ever considered giving the WB back to Jordan-Gaza back to Egypt-Golan back to Syria-Lebonan?

Then the arabs could fight it out amongst themselves.
Question is would these countries even want these troublemakers back?

[Shi Huangdi]

"Question is would these countries even want these troublemakers back?"

Probably not, it would be too bad for the economy. Ideally, Israel and Palestine would be together, as one binational, secular, democratic state. That won't happen however. What needs to happen is for the west to come in with a strong arm and impose a peace. Both parties in this case cannot come to terms- they are deadlocked over the issue of Jerusalem. In addition, neither side is scared enough by the other sides' force to make the other give in. The only way to solve this conflict is to indimate both sides into giving in- Israel could probably be forced by the West because the West could use economic measure to kill Israel's economy. Make Israel retreat to pre-1967 borders, making Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem into a Palestinian state. Give the Jewish settlers an option of either leaving to Israel proper or becoming citizens of Palestine as an ethinic minority. Give the Golan Heights back to Syria, the Shebaa farms back to Lebanon. Pressure with all available strength the Arab states to recognize Israel and guarantee the security of Israel.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by laurentius
I think western world should declare a war against the state of israel. Once it is defeated, administration of the Holy land (Israel/Palestina/Judea/whateveryouwannacallit) should be given to the UN. For me the current state of Israel has no legitimate reason to exist. An apartheid system of people believing they are the superrace is something very, very sick to me. Boring hordes of jewish fools gathered to the settlements from america and russia...Just a buch of schmucks

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[Guynemer]

Step One: Grab Sharon and Arafat.

Step Two: Lock them in a small plexiglass chamber, sort of like the battlebox from Battlebots, complete with various hazards.

Step Three: Fight to the death.

Step Four: Broadcast on pay-per-view.

Step Five: Use the proceeds to provide quality housing, water, education, and security to all Israelis and Palestinians.


What? It's no more implausible than any other solution offered up thus far.

[markusf]

Solution 1.

Get rid of the Israeli government and the PLA. Then the EU, or the UN occupy the region and install a government of their own, and outlaw religous schools.

Solution 2.

Only atheists are allowed allowed to serve in a Isreali government or a Palistinion government. No religious issues may be looked at by either government. Each country appoints 7 members to some religous oversight body that has jurisdiction over all religious matters in both countries... Again all forms of religous schools are outlawed in both countries.

[Alexander's Horse]

Nah - your solution markusf would be to expand massively, race for republic, build every wonder and trade route you could get and then build temples and marketplaces

[markusf]

And after everyone is a atheist, i can brainwash them to follow my new religion.

[finkian]

It's nice to say what's fair and what's not, divide the state, move out the israelis-- but none of this is gonna happen, simply because the US is backing up Israel. So, the changing factor would be the withdrawal of US financial support for Israel. Once Israel's bread disappears from the table, they will have to settle for an equitable solution-- sharing Jerusalem, moving out of Arab land, yada yada. Palestinians won't stop their violence until the Israelis get out, so THAT's where we have to put pressure. I hate it when the US interferes with a foreign country-- but the area is SO unstable, and SO crucial, someone has to intervene. That's all there is to it.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

To the proponents of a democratic, secular, bi-ethinic state:

What do you do when the Palestinians, once they achieve a clear majority in such a state, democratically outlaw Judaism? If they do it constitutionally, in accordance with Western democratic procedures, what basis would there be for interferring?

[Gatekeeper]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
To the proponents of a democratic, secular, bi-ethinic state:

What do you do when the Palestinians, once they achieve a clear majority in such a state, democratically outlaw Judaism? If they do it constitutionally, in accordance with Western democratic procedures, what basis would there be for interferring?

I've got a headache already trying to figure out a solution — it'll turn into a migraine if I take the above into consideration.

Gatekeeper

[Alexander's Horse]

At the end of the day the Jews and Pals have to learn to live together in peace. Even if you divide the region and create 2 states, those states would be symbiotic economically.

[markusf]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
At the end of the day the Jews and Pals have to learn to live together in peace. Even if you divide the region and create 2 states, those states would be symbiotic economically.

I doubt it, i really think isreal will be destroyed in the next 20-50 years. Look at the USA, its being over run my hispanics, and they really don't care that much about the middle east. Now add in the fact that technologies are rapidly evolving that make the need oil obsolete. These 2 combined means the USA aid budget to isreal will disapear and it will be left to fend for its self. During this time period nearly every country in the middle east is expected to have developed nuclear and chemical weapons..
So in short, The arabs source of money will quickly disapear, isreal will be left to fend for its self. If people think the middle east is a mess now, whats it going to be in 50 years? A nuclear containimated zone?

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Natan

Kamrat: How would this end the conflict? The establishment of Communism in Eastern europe only heightened that region's ethnic conflicts, and AFAIK the same is true in Asia.

But that was the wrong kind of communism ie stalinism True communism is benevolent and don´t opress people on the basis of creed or ethnic heritage.