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  • The War on Terrorism is a Farce!

    This war on terrorism is nuts. I can see retaliation for the destruction of the World Trade Center, but a worldwide War on Terror? What hypocrisy.

    I mean, look at the history of the US, we haven't been shy about using terror in the past. Our revolutionary past is filled with acts of terrorism (what, you thought tar and feathering feels nice?). Mobs gathered up tax collectors and tortured them before killing them (what do you think tar and feathering is), they massacred loyalists. And we claim moral superiority?

    We decry killing of civilians in Israel... do we forget our own history? There were civilians we killed in Sherman's march towards the sea, the firebombing of Dresden, the massacres in Vietnam and Korea, and, most spectacularly, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But you say, this is war. What do you think Palestinians feel? They feel they've been in war with the Israelis since 1948. Why is their killing of civilians worse than our own?

    We are being hypocrites on the world stage, by denouncing terrorism so strongly, yet sponsering it whenever we needed to defeat Communism. We've used terrorism to great results, so to declare war on it is patently absurd.

    PS. This isn't a David-Floyd-My-Password-Has-Been-Stolen post. I actually believe this, and it has been building up.

    PPS. You Euros aren't off the hook either. The terrorism that was done during the religious wars of the 16th and 17th Centuries and the terrorism during the Colonial Era was no better than what the United States has done since its founding.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    Why don't you just make it official and tell everyone you support hamas?

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    • #3
      Re: The War on Terrorism is a Farce!

      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      This war on terrorism is nuts. I can see retaliation for the destruction of the World Trade Center, but a worldwide War on Terror? What hypocrisy.

      I mean, look at the history of the US, we haven't been shy about using terror in the past. Our revolutionary past is filled with acts of terrorism (what, you thought tar and feathering feels nice?). Mobs gathered up tax collectors and tortured them before killing them (what do you think tar and feathering is), they massacred loyalists. And we claim moral superiority?

      We decry killing of civilians in Israel... do we forget our own history? There were civilians we killed in Sherman's march towards the sea, the firebombing of Dresden, the massacres in Vietnam and Korea, and, most spectacularly, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But you say, this is war. What do you think Palestinians feel? They feel they've been in war with the Israelis since 1948. Why is their killing of civilians worse than our own?

      We are being hypocrites on the world stage, by denouncing terrorism so strongly, yet sponsering it whenever we needed to defeat Communism. We've used terrorism to great results, so to declare war on it is patently absurd.

      PS. This isn't a David-Floyd-My-Password-Has-Been-Stolen post. I actually believe this, and it has been building up.

      PPS. You Euros aren't off the hook either. The terrorism that was done during the religious wars of the 16th and 17th Centuries and the terrorism during the Colonial Era was no better than what the United States has done since its founding.

      Um...who were we at war with when the planes hit the towers?
      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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      • #4
        I thought that might have been obvious .
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #5
          Re: Re: The War on Terrorism is a Farce!

          Originally posted by Tuberski
          Um...who were we at war with when the planes hit the towers?
          Who were we at war with then Pearl Harbor was bombed?
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #6
            Re: Re: Re: The War on Terrorism is a Farce!

            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


            Who were we at war with then Pearl Harbor was bombed?
            And what happened after? We went to war.

            So why should the WTC be any different?
            Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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            • #7
              Yes... we should... and we did..

              But why are we in the Phillipines? And the War on Terrorism can be used for justification for expansion of the war in Columbia.

              We aren't just going after Al Quada here.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #8
                Who were we at war with then Pearl Harbor was bombed?

                so you still equate Hiroshima and Nagasaki with acts of terror?

                3000 of ours dead? I say the gloves are off and it's time to open up the Can of Whoop-as$, hypocrisy or no. If anything we've been too timid, smiling too often and putting away the Big Stick.


                Dave
                "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  Yes... we should... and we did..

                  But why are we in the Phillipines? And the War on Terrorism can be used for justification for expansion of the war in Columbia.

                  We aren't just going after Al Quada here.

                  Because Abu Sayef (SP?) has two Americans held hostage and supposedly have links with Al Qaeda.
                  "Let us kill the English! Their concept of individual rights could undermine the power of our beloved tyrants!"

                  ~Lisa as Jeanne d'Arc

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                  • #10
                    I say we beat them down with a large trout

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                    • #11
                      DD: That's fine! But don't tell me that we are doing this on some moral highground. If we want to go whup ass... then say that is what we are doing... not because we want to 'make the world safe' from terrorism.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        Yes... we should... and we did..

                        But why are we in the Phillipines? And the War on Terrorism can be used for justification for expansion of the war in Columbia.

                        We aren't just going after Al Quada here.
                        That is the point.

                        It is to wipe out terrorism everywhere.

                        I too think that it is a farce- the United States should assist India in their war against the terrorist seperatists.
                        It should also assist Spain with the Basques if Spain asks.

                        Etc.

                        It should be more global than the US merely beating up on its enemies.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DarkCloud


                          That is the point.

                          It is to wipe out terrorism everywhere.

                          I too think that it is a farce- the United States should assist India in their war against the terrorist seperatists.
                          It should also assist Spain with the Basques if Spain asks.

                          Etc.

                          It should be more global than the US merely beating up on its enemies.

                          Neither has asked for our help.
                          "Let us kill the English! Their concept of individual rights could undermine the power of our beloved tyrants!"

                          ~Lisa as Jeanne d'Arc

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                          • #14
                            It is to wipe out terrorism everywhere.


                            And like I said, that is hypocritical.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              It is to wipe out terrorism everywhere.


                              And like I said, that is hypocritical.

                              No, because the examples you gave were in US history, not US present.
                              "Let us kill the English! Their concept of individual rights could undermine the power of our beloved tyrants!"

                              ~Lisa as Jeanne d'Arc

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