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  • #16
    So?

    Doesn't make it less hypocritical.

    Do as I say, not as I did.

    And I bet the CIA has been planning/doing terrorist acts against our enemies
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #17
      We have no control over what our ancestors did. Because if that were the case, we'd have to label Germany hypocrits if they try and develop any kind of 'power.'



      I don't know Imran, if I didn't know better, I'd say this is an attempt at a troll.
      Last edited by Kyle; March 28, 2002, 22:48.
      "Let us kill the English! Their concept of individual rights could undermine the power of our beloved tyrants!"

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      • #18
        DD: That's fine! But don't tell me that we are doing this on some moral highground. If we want to go whup ass...

        I never implied a moral highground, only a ground of necessary vengeance in our selfish interest pure and simple. And I dont exonerate ANY sovereign nation for the sins of its past. Bush's rhetoric and Euro-whining aside, there is some necessary butt-kicking against the heavy-hitter terrorist groups and Saddam.

        Will it win the war against this abstract notion of Terror? Probably not, but it feels REAL good to be sweeping some scum into the dustbin of history along the way
        "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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        • #19
          I never implied a moral highground


          Nope, but Bush and the administration did.

          I don't know Imran, if I didn't know better, I'd say this is an attempt at a troll.


          You don't know any better.

          We have no control over what our ancestors did. Because if that were the case, we'd have to label Germany hypocrits if they try and develop any kind of 'power.'


          Germany would be hypocrits if they said someone ELSE couldn't develop any power. If they developed power then they'd be doing what they did before, which isn't in any way hypocritical.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #20
            Re: The War on Terrorism is a Farce!

            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            PS. This isn't a David-Floyd-My-Password-Has-Been-Stolen post. I actually believe this, and it has been building up.
            It would make more sense that that way though.

            BTW, what are you decrying? The rhetoric or the targets?
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

              You don't know any better.

              Okay then, this is a troll and not worth anymore time.
              "Let us kill the English! Their concept of individual rights could undermine the power of our beloved tyrants!"

              ~Lisa as Jeanne d'Arc

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              • #22
                Re: Re: The War on Terrorism is a Farce!

                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                BTW, what are you decrying? The rhetoric or the targets?
                They are linked in a way. I mean the rhetoric has led to the expansion of targets (because Bush wanted allies for his effort). I mean if he said it was a war of retaliation against Bin Laden and the Taliban, he could have gotten support and there would have been no expansion of this 'hot' war.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #23
                  Re: The War on Terrorism is a Farce!

                  Anyway, since this was meant as a serious post I'll deal with it as such. To work.

                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  And we claim moral superiority?
                  Yes, and we are quite justified in doing so. Suffering a devestating, unprovoked attack on your civilian population tends to give that perk to you.

                  We decry killing of civilians in Israel... do we forget our own history?
                  Of what relevence are the examples you listed to the Mideast Conflict? Or have you learned that it is standard practice in the US army to send in suicide bombers to murder a group of teenagers?
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kyle



                    Neither has asked for our help.
                    Spain can handle the ETA, we don't have a 70,000 Member Civil Guard for nothing!

                    Imran, what kind of person are you? It seems like that you have no consideration for the people who were killed on september 11th. I want the US to wipe out every single terrorist out there who thinks they can bring down the western world. This must be accomplished by all means.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      I mean the rhetoric has led to the expansion of targets (because Bush wanted allies for his effort).
                      Expansion of targets does tend to happen though when trying to destroy a global criminal organization. Rhetoric or no rhetoric.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #26
                        Yes, and we are quite justified in doing so. Suffering a devestating, unprovoked attack on your civilian population tends to give that perk to you.


                        Yes, against Osama, but what justification does that give for increasing the money we give to fight rebels in Columbia (who engage in terrorism from time to time). What does that have to do with perhaps going into Georgia to destroy rebels there?

                        Of what relevence are the examples you listed to the Mideast Conflict? Or have you learned that it is standard practice in the US army to send in suicide bombers to murder a group of teenagers?


                        The founders were in charge of tarring and feathering of British tax collectors. That is torture and murder. Not much worse that suicide bombers. And can you prove that Palestinian suicide bombers were military?

                        Imran, what kind of person are you? It seems like that you have no consideration for the people who were killed on september 11th. I want the US to wipe out every single terrorist out there who thinks they can bring down the western world. This must be accomplished by all means.


                        And and you want the US to have no allies, and no friends. You want the US to be like the Roman Empire and conquer... I reject that notion.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #27
                          And and you want the US to have no allies, and no friends. You want the US to be like the Roman Empire and conquer... I reject that notion.
                          Oh my goodness... when did I say that? Where did that come from?

                          The US to have friends must rid this world of *******s who think they can kill innocent civilians. This includes the following:

                          Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, and every other terrorist group in every part of the world.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #28
                            What seems to have been overlooked is the fact that all of the atrocities committed by the US were during wars we joined or were asked to fight in against one or more countries. Terrorists such as these are international. The swear no allegiance. So worldwide the war is. Of course, the US can just declare war on all the countries terrorists hide/operate in instead
                            Pax Superiore Vi Tellarum
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                            • #29
                              Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, and every other terrorist group in every part of the world.


                              What about the terrorists we support?
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                                Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, and every other terrorist group in every part of the world.


                                What about the terrorists we support?
                                Alright... this entire thread is a troll, and is pathetic. Like who Imran? Like who? Nobody.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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