China Invades Taiwan!!!

[faded glory]

dp (fter teh fact

[Serb]

Originally posted by faded glory
Ya thats why we got the NMD going. Chinese/NK cant reach us with bombers

Keep dreaming.

[faded glory]

Originally posted by Serb


Keep dreaming.

Give us time. We will be the one's laughing at you cause 8000 of your warheads are piss obselete. We can already hit the missiles from 100 miles up like the test saturday.

[Serb]

Originally posted by faded glory




Give us time. We will be the one's laughing at you cause 8000 of your warheads are piss obselete. We can already hit the missiles from 100 miles up like the test saturday.

Did history teach you nothing? any new weapon/defence system borns a new counter measures. Do you realy think that everybody will give you a lot of time to create something unbeatable? It's nonsence. No matter what type of defence you will create other countries will create a weapon systems which will easy penatrate your NMD (it is much easyer to create offence systems). This called a arms race, and it's too bad that YOU start it again.

[The Mad Monk]

...you still have to have the dinero to research and implement the countermeasures to a missle shield...

[Serb]

Write now we don't have to. We already have the countermeasures. But, only hypotheticaly, if USA will be able to develop something really good, which as FG said could make our nukes obsolete (as for me 0.001% is proper probability for this) then we'll develop something absolutely new also. Even after collapse of SU we are the second largest arms exporter in the world and we are constantly improve our weapons and develop new ones, it's perhaps our most favorite buissnes- to create weapons.
As for price of counter measures, it is much cheaper to develop say 20 new ICMB which cannot be stoped by new NMD, then to create and to install a 1000 of interceptor missiles.

But this is the dead end. Instead of reduction of nukes USA push the world to new arms race. It's very sad that you choose this way.

[Bereta_Eder]

The russian S-300 SAM Missiles already have limited anti-ballistic capabilities... (I know because we have bought some - Cyprus did in fact).


So the russians seem to already have worked on that kind of technology long before. And it works too

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by faded glory
Thats still completely irrelevant. Taiwan changed.

So? What rights the US has in interfering with another countries internal affairs?

Originally posted by faded glory
And the martial law imposed from Tapai, was hardly repressive. Just against illicit communism.

Which history book have you been reading?

Originally posted by faded glory
And besides, there is nothing wrong with backing the lesser of the two evils to see the evilest (that a word?) crumbles.

So why is communism evil? It's just some kind of knee-jerk reaction some Usians have.

Originally posted by faded glory
Ya thats why we got the NMD going. Chinese/NK cant reach us with bombers

Keep wasting $$$ on something that won't work like a good boy.

[Saint Marcus]

And the martial law imposed from Tapai, was hardly repressive. Just against illicit communism.

As has been pointed out, there weren't any democratic elections prior to the end of the martial law. Still, the US supported Taiwan eventhough it wasn't a democracy. So the claim that the US will defend Taiwan against an autocratic China, because Taiwan is a democracy doesn't hold. The US promised to defend Taiwan before it was a democracy, and would still defend Taiwan if it wasn't a democracy nowadays. Don't take the moral high ground here. The sole reason the US will defend Taiwan is cause they still don't particulary like China or the communists (surprise surprise), and not because Taiwan happends to be a democracy and China isn't.

[Urban Ranger]

My take is this.

The US may pay all the lip services it wants about defending Taiwan etc., but when push comes to shove the US won't do a thing.

Primarily, the US is selling lots of weapons to Taiwan, so it will have to appear to take the moral high ground. But once the missiles start falling, regardless whether the PRC is successful in invading Taiwan, the island's economy will be completely destroyed.

No economy = no money for weapons. There's no point for the US to anger Beijing for no gain. *insert cynical smilie*

[Faeelin]

Yes sir, Communist governments aren't evil.

The Great Leap Foward.

Gulags in Siberia.

the Warm Spring in Prague.

the 5 Year Plans.

I could list several dozen other ways Communist governments have repressed their people, including blatant genocide.

But then, America does that too.



BTW, am I to take it that Europe wouldn't defend a democracy against a dictatorship/communist state? Which, you know, implies a great deal about your own values.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by MrFun
I think we should let the Strawberry Advocates take over Tawain and install a new republic government.

This seems to be the most plausible argument.

Though I still don't know what Europe is doing.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by DaShi
Though I still don't know what Europe is doing.

Cowering in a corner muttering to themselves.

[DaShi]

Not what they're doing now. What will they do when the **** hits the fan.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Faeelin
Yes sir, Communist governments aren't evil.

The Great Leap Foward.

Gulags in Siberia.

the Warm Spring in Prague.

the 5 Year Plans.

I could list several dozen other ways Communist governments have repressed their people, including blatant genocide.

What say you go study communism a bit more, maybe reading some of Marx's works, before jumping to conclusions.

Originally posted by Faeelin
But then, America does that too.

That just shows "democracy" can be just as bad as totalitarian governments.

Originally posted by Faeelin
BTW, am I to take it that Europe wouldn't defend a democracy against a dictatorship/communist state? Which, you know, implies a great deal about your own values.

My value? I value my words. I will do as I say. Since I have said that Taiwan is not a country, who am I to defend it?