Bisexuals

[*End Is Forever*]

Stew, regardless of your pathetic, bigoted comments since, I'd like to offer you the opportunity to reply to my posts above.

[Asher]

Stewie's just pissed because none of the other boys would ever play with him.

[*End Is Forever*]

He's just jealous that he's not had the chance to make out over the SU pool table...

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Boddington's
I believe we're all born with the potential for a healthy, heterosexual sex drive. Similar to that we're born with the potential to be six feet tall (give or take a foot), but obviously we aren't born that tall.

So now you are telling me I could have been 6 foot tall if I had chosen? You really are a strange one aren't you?

In some cases then, the healthy sex drive obviously isn't fulfilled. People claim to be gay, people claim to be bisexual, and some people claim to be asexual.

Who are you to label what is a healthy sex drive and what isn't. In fact Stew, homosexuality is commonly observed in the wild in a large number of species (well documented, probably applies to all species, where applicable). I suppose any man could screw a woman. It is a matter of preference whether they want to. There is a considerable need to be with the gender of your choice in life, like you with females. How would you feel if you had to live your life with males in relationships, longing for a woman all along? Get your act together Stew, it stinks.

And Iain also brings up a damn fine point about your attitude to alternative culture. From not too long ago you seem to have done a total U-turn. I have seen how in recent time you have conducted yourself on the Rockworld board, like an arse would be the best description. You even take subtle jibes at me or Iain. It's really strange, and somewhat concerning.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by MrFun
QUOTE FROM MONK:
I agree whole-heartedly that you can't just make a choice and switch your preferences. I do want to ask you however, whether we can agree that one's sexuality cannot possibly at the time of birth be limited to one of the genders, and that same sexuality is if not entirely, then at least mostly shaped by your environment.

If that's correct, we're all bisexual to begin with, whereafter our respective environments in most cases shapes a preference for one and only one gender. It would also mean you could eventually change your sexual orientation if the "forgotten" side in yourself was stimulated somehow, maybe through reflections on sexuality, being around bisexuals in a pseudo-sexual context and so on.
Of course, that would only be possible in a period of actual sexual development - I can imagine that the early teen years would probably be those where one would be most easily affected.

END OF QUOTE FROM MONK

This is what began in another thread started by Blisterz and we decided to continue the discussion here, where it is more relevant.

I have to get back to you on this Monk to provide more meaningful comments. Right now, I'm pressed for time. Gotta get to classes in less than a half hour.

Ok, I am back tonight at home.
Now that I have read your comments, Monk, let me contribute some of what I think of what you said.

If sexual orientation is on a continuim rather than separated rigidly from one another, then your statements could be correct. But only if sexual orientation can be proven to be on a continuim.

I think once you develop your sexual orientation, whether that be through environment, or genetics, that is the sexual orientation that you were probably meant to be --- whether that be heterosexual, bisexual, or homosexual.

Or maybe bisexuality can be seen metaphorically as a weighing scale if sexual orientation is on a continuim. That means then, that you could be fundamentally bisexual, while leaning either towards bisexuality or heterosexuality. Which is basically what you said. Interesting -- I will probably have more to say as I think about it some more.

And Boddington, you seem to be ignorant about the theories on sexual orientation development, and sexual identity. You use the word "claim" in a completely wrong sense. Do you "claim" to be straight? Of course not -- we are usually HONEST about our sexual orientation once we realize what that true sexual orientation is -- not "claiming" a sexual orientation.

And Blisterz, please do not take this the wrong way. I do not want to get on your bad side. I thought since your thread was a more personal issue one, that Monk and I would have thread-jacked the original topic. Sorry, man.

[Blisterz]

Originally posted by MrFun




And Blisterz, please do not take this the wrong way. I do not want to get on your bad side. I thought since your thread was a more personal issue one, that Monk and I would have thread-jacked the original topic. Sorry, man.

No No, I was just poking fun. Truth be told I really like reading your stuff, I always come away feeling a wee bit smarter (don't let that head get too big). Come join us in the "do you know the names of all the people you have slept with?" thread. Its a hotbed of sex ranting, I am getting all hot just thinking about it...

[Alexander's Horse]

I find it hard to believe truly bisexual people exist.

[Asher]

I find it hard to believe truly bisexual people exist.

Well aren't you full of insight and knowledge.

[Alexander's Horse]

I think its a fad.

[Asher]

*barely refrains himself from making a comment about Horsie and his Wife, for fear of the banning rod*

[Solly]

Red Jon and Starchild,

I like the way you say 'healthy heterosexual sex drive', clearly implying that homo and bisexuality are unhealthy

I am not a homophobe, so quite plainly homosexuality is unhealthy for the continuation of an individual's genes and thus the species in general.

PH,

Who are you to label what is a healthy sex drive and what isn't. In fact Stew, homosexuality is commonly observed in the wild in a large number of species

See above point, and what you wrote here is highly doubted anyway.

AH,

I agree. People trying to be cool and appear "open-minded" and "embracing" when in reality, they are just trying to be fashionable and like their friends. (This doesn't apply to all)

[Asher]

Originally posted by Boddington's
I am not a homophobe, so quite plainly homosexuality is unhealthy for the continuation of an individual's genes and thus the species in general.

That's like saying it's unhealthy to use a condom during sex, genius.

I agree. People trying to be cool and appear "open-minded" and "embracing" when in reality, they are just trying to be fashionable and like their friends. (This doesn't apply to all)

Not everyone is a poser like yourself, Stewie. One day you'll realize that, and then you can come here and apologize to everyone.

How do you explain people who have been bisexual all their life and knew it? How about those same people in an extremely conservative environment that frowns on it? Are they doing it to be cool and fashionable? No wait, let me guess, this time they're doing it for rebellion, right?

You're so off and generalizing entire people based upon the poor judgement of certain people (no doubt in your group, birds of a feather...).

[Solly]

Originally posted by Asher

That's like saying it's unhealthy to use a condom during sex, genius.

What? That is healthy due to avoiding STDs.

Not everyone is a poser like yourself, Stewie.

Me, a poser??

How do you explain people who have been bisexual all their life and knew it? How about those same people in an extremely conservative environment that frowns on it? Are they doing it to be cool and fashionable? No wait, let me guess, this time they're doing it for rebellion, right?

There are certain people that are probably confused and doing it without trying to be trendy or keep up to date with the latest fad, but these are in the minority.

You're so off and generalizing entire people based upon the poor judgement of certain people (no doubt in your group, birds of a feather...).

I'm not generalising.

I'm not saying all "bisexuals" are so to be trendy. I'm saying the majority of them are, though.

Especially the females.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Boddington's
What? That healthy due to avoiding STDs.

It's also an "unhealthy for the continuation of an individual's genes". That was your reasoning for bisexuality and homosexuality, how come it doesn't apply now? What? You mean people don't only have sex to create money-vacuums?

Me, a poser??

I've seen your pictures.
I don't know if that's what euros call a poser but it's a classic case where I come from.

I'm not generalising.

I'm not saying all "bisexuals" are so to be trendy. I'm saying the majority of them are, though.

Especially the females.

How many bisexuals do you know?
That said, how many bisexuals do you know outside of your social circle in England?
That said, how many bisexuals do you know outside of England?

You don't have nearly enough samples, nor enough brains, to reach that conclusion. Maybe most bisexuals you are friends with do it to be trendy, but I suppose the same is for a lot of the stuff they do. Does that mean everybody is a mindless fool like them? Certainly not.

[-=Vagrant=-]

PH:Who are you to label what is a healthy sex drive and what isn't. In fact Stew, homosexuality is commonly observed in the wild in a large number of species


Bod:See above point, and what you wrote here is highly doubted anyway.

What he wrote is highly doubted by people who refuse to accept all the research and studies pointing that homosexual behaviour does happen among other animals than humans.
I have to admit that I have personally witnessed homosexual behaviour amongst two squirrels. Both were male and they never had any offspring. They lived in the same nest for two years. Then again, it could be that only Finnish squirrels are gay.