Bisexuals

[Solly]

And you knew they were male how?

That is just hearsay.

[MikeH]

You know Stew, it's not the British youth that is disgustingly liberal it's you who are disgustingly bigoted.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Boddington's
See above point, and what you wrote here is highly doubted anyway.

Oh come on off it, there has been extensive work done into this field, check it out.

And you still haven't replied to Iain yet, who is very keen to hear your replies to his posts

[Monk]

Boddington's,

I wasn't going to bore you with a page long post when a few lines can exquisitely sum it all up. What more facts do you require?

I need you to answer my question about the process of sexual development. And for the record, I'd love it if you delivered a long post about your thoughts on the subject. While you're at it, I think I need a definition of what's "healthy" and what's not, and try to include some reflections on masturbation in that answer.

Fun,

I think once you develop your sexual orientation, whether that be through environment, or genetics, that is the sexual orientation that you were probably meant to be

Then your sexual preference can only be genetic or somehow God-given. I don't reject the idea of the gay gene - I don't know anything about it as we don't have that discussion in Denmark, and it doesn't really interest me much anyway. But I think you're highly underestimating the power of the environment you're born into. As I told Boddington's before, I consider one's sexual preference as a (significant) part of your identity, which is non-existing at the time of birth. Imagine an experiment in which we place 300 boys on a desert island and let them grow up there without ever seeing a woman. We can be sure that as a natural result of their sex drive, all 300 would eventually find themselves engaged in homosexual activity. If said experiment was conducted and "succesful", could I get you to withdraw your statement that we're "meant to be" anything at all?

[MikeH]

I'm keen to hear his replies to Iain's posts too.

Stew try this book:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/031225377X/ref=ase_scottbidstrupshoA/104-8978840-1021548

Or this article from Science news online with impressive references and sources.

http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc97/1_4_97/bob1.htm

[ZoboZeWarrior]

Personnaly, I think that 'bisexuality' is maybe the most normal sexual behavior for humans as sex was never for only-reproduction purpose, but was too a way for social exchange, feeling expression or domination.

But I tend to considere that heteosexuality is better for me. For estetical, educational and 'philosophical' reasons.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Monk

Fun,

I think once you develop your sexual orientation, whether that be through environment, or genetics, that is the sexual orientation that you were probably meant to be

Then your sexual preference can only be genetic or somehow God-given. I don't reject the idea of the gay gene - I don't know anything about it as we don't have that discussion in Denmark, and it doesn't really interest me much anyway. But I think you're highly underestimating the power of the environment you're born into. As I told Boddington's before, I consider one's sexual preference as a (significant) part of your identity, which is non-existing at the time of birth. Imagine an experiment in which we place 300 boys on a desert island and let them grow up there without ever seeing a woman. We can be sure that as a natural result of their sex drive, all 300 would eventually find themselves engaged in homosexual activity. If said experiment was conducted and "succesful", could I get you to withdraw your statement that we're "meant to be" anything at all?

Well there are multiple theories out there right now. But if you can provide evidence to past psychological experiments that emphasize environmental impact on sexual orientation development, by all means do so.

But you're basically saying that we are all born asexual then, right? And then we develop our sexual indentity later in, say, our teenage years?

And Boddington, have you read this discussion between me and Monk? Probably not, I gather. But anyway, I will cross my fingers and hope that if you're interested, try giving some intelligent comments instead of some rantings about fads.

[-=Vagrant=-]

Originally posted by Boddington's
And you knew they were male how?
That is just hearsay.

It would be just hearsay if I had not infact "checked-it-out" myself. During those two years I fed them on numerous occasions. This may be complicated to you but I'll try: Squirrels are mammals--->female squirrels have nipples. I've fed squirrels on many different places around Finland, and I can see the if they have nipples or not. (I'm not very proud of this ability)
Dolphins, foxes, humans, giraffes and swans do it. However, it isn't excatly the same homosexual behaviour we commonly understand as homosexuality. It could be called same-sex activity.

Pardon my bad grammar, but english is not my first language.

"When men are most sure and arrogant, they are commonly the most mistaken."
David Hume 1711-1776

[faded glory]

Originally posted by ZoboZeWarrior
Personnaly, I think that 'bisexuality' is maybe the most normal sexual behavior for humans as sex was never for only-reproduction purpose, but was too a way for social exchange, feeling expression or domination.

But I tend to considere that heteosexuality is better for me. For estetical, educational and 'philosophical' reasons.

Oh ya


What better way to show your appreciation to your neighbor than launching a big load up his rear end.

[ZoboZeWarrior]

Originally posted by faded glory
What better way to show your appreciation to your neighbor than launching a big load up his rear end.

"Don't do to other, what you don't want they do to you"
Christus Jesus - Some years after 0 AD.

[*End Is Forever*]

Stew, seeing as you seemed to miss my post earlier, I'm repeating here for your benefit...

Stew, don't talk such utter bull.

Perhaps there are one or two people that claim to be bisexual for ulterior motives; however, they are an extremely small minority, and whatever you might now claim, your original post read "bisexuals are only choosing to be like that because it's currently trendy". Not some or a few, you tarred all bisexuals with that brush. It's a revolting, bigoted comment, and I sincerely hope it's only a troll.

Besides, what would you know about the "goth/metal/punk cliques"? You wouldn't touch them with a bargepole. You bought NOFX and Offspring shirts and were too embarassed to wear them! How can you make such stunning generalisations about groups you don't even know or understand?

I've seen people go through hell over their bisexuality. Some of whom you know too. I've ventured far further into those "cliques" than you ever had the balls to do, and I've yet to meet a "trendy" bisexual. Yes, some "alternative" people do look down on those that aren't like them (which I think is why you seem to hate them so much), but again it's a small minority. It's not trendy to be bisexual. For everyone other than the bigots, it's irrelevent.

Like Jon said, grow up.

Now ****ing reply you piece of chicken****.

[faded glory]

I dont think Bi-sexualty is in anyway some kind of social exchange. We aren't monkeys you know (well some say we are) we dont need to rely on scent for Status for ladies. Even primates who do engage in bisexual acts do it for one reason. So the females know bye scent they are not the Alpha male and they dont want to piss off the big ape at the top with better genes...


We can talk, think, reason. I dont think Bi Sexuality or Homosexuality is applicable or justified in today's world. There's just no natural justification beyond preference. Its just not normal. Plain and simple. Its genetic suicide.

But feel free to debate me on this. Im working from home today.

[Asher]

It's amazing how many dumbasses this world has, especially the hicks in disguise on poly.

I dont think Bi Sexuality or Homosexuality is applicable or justified in today's world. There's just no natural justification beyond preference. Its just not normal. Plain and simple. Its genetic suicide.

Sexual orientation (your "preference" bull**** shows your ignorance on the matter) should not have to be justified in any way. Of course it's not normal in the sense that most people do do it, but it is normal in the sense that it happens and it doesn't hurt anyone. Plain and simple.

Try to wrap your mind around that for a bit.

[faded glory]

Hey ******, I said nothing of the sort. Re-Read my post. I never said anyone had to justify there sexual prefrence. I just said it isnt natural. While its natural to the person. Its not to nature as a whole.

[faded glory]

I just said you can't justify it through natural means. As Zobo tried.

edited DP.

If you want to come on and start throwing around ignorant statements like "Hick" I will ignore you. Its not worth the time .