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  • #91
    What's the difference?
    You can't justify anything in nature, it just is.
    Contrary to popular belief, men are part of nature as well.

    What kind of bull**** is this "justify in nature" crap anyway? That has no bearing on anything.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    • #92
      Originally posted by faded glory
      Hey ******, I said nothing of the sort. Re-Read my post. I never said anyone had to justify there sexual prefrence. I just said it isnt natural. While its natural to the person. Its not to nature as a whole.

      It is completely, and 100% natural.

      Homosexual behaviour has been documented in hundreds of species, including all of the species of "higher intellect". It probably exists to some extent in all species where it's possible, but it is not something that has been documented well in the past. (because of bigotry and intolerance on the subject)


      Also, the only behaviour on this subject that could be considered unatural would be the bigotry and intolerance that humans have, no other species does this.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Asher
        What kind of bull**** is this "justify in nature" crap anyway? That has no bearing on anything.
        You see somthing thats not right and shouldnt add up. It doesnt make sense at all


        Like Homo-Sexuality

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        • #94
          Originally posted by faded glory
          You see somthing thats not right and shouldnt add up. It doesnt make sense at all

          Like Homo-Sexuality
          Why don't you knock back a few and drive your pickup off the farm's cliff?

          Homosexuality doesn't have to make sense, it doesn't have to be justified, just in the same sense that blonde hair doesn't need to be justified or make sense. That's how it is.

          Only a fool discriminates based upon that kind of stuff.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #95
            That's a very nice rod you have made there fg. It will complement your back beautifully
            Speaking of Erith:

            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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            • #96
              Hello again Fun,

              But you're basically saying that we are all born asexual then, right? And then we develop our sexual indentity later in, say, our teenage years?

              What I'm basically saying is that as a natural part of the before mentioned status of sexuality as a part of your identity, your sexuality continues to develop your entire life, not just in puberty. Maybe, if you are active in homosexual circles, you've met a woman who was beat up by her husband when she was 25 to 30 years old, and from that time on has been unable to engage herself in any kind of sexual relations with a man. Or if you want to talk about other forms of sexuality that are different from the norm, it's also been proved that people that have been exposed to incest are more likely to become child abusers themselves when they become adults, or for that matter obtain a couple other sexual deviances.

              Another more scientific example could be the often quoted theory that some people develop homosexuality as a result of a dominating mother in the first couple of years (I cannot elaborate that much on the theory but I know it's represented by psychologist Johan Cullberg, in case you're interested).

              So in conclusion, no, we're not born as asexuals. They're people without any sex drive whatsoever, and you're very much born with a sex drive. It would be more precise to say you were born without sexual preferences because this is a part of your identity and we all had to start from scratch. This means that if I had the relevant details about your life and the psychological insight required, then I could tell you why you are today a homosexual man. It doesn't have anything, or at least much to do with genes or coincidence.

              Now, faded glory,

              We can talk, think, reason. I dont think Bi Sexuality or Homosexuality is applicable or justified in today's world. There's just no natural justification beyond preference. Its just not normal. Plain and simple. Its genetic suicide.

              What about masturbation, then? I asked Bod's the same question, but I hope you're capable of answering, too. From your "natural justification, genetic suicide" perspective, there is the difference between a heterosexual man who masturbates occasionally and a bisexual man who engages in homosexuality occasionally and so your statement doesn't really make sense. Especially not since bisexual men seems to get more women than the rest of us

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              • #97
                "Homosexuality doesn't make sense," faded?

                What doesn't make sense, Sparky, are your ill-formed trolls and small-minded pettiness and ignorance.
                "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                • #98
                  Remember Plato's Allegory of the Cave?

                  Well, Boddington and Faded seem to be living in the world of shadows when it comes to sexual orientation and sexual development.

                  And thanks for your elaboration, Monk.

                  But I do have problems with the dominating mother theory -- seems to be too simplistic to explain sexual orientation development, and risks being based on sexist reasoning and stereotypes.
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #99
                    I've been inspired to make a new smiley.



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                    • Someone said the homosexuality/Bisexuality was natural.

                      And I said to prove it. Its not mine to prove it isnt. They said it. They didnt...


                      What doesn't make sense, Sparky, are your ill-formed trolls and small-minded pettiness and ignorance.
                      I find it odd how im being called and ignorant and attacked bye lefties. Yet I havent said ONE Bigoted or anti-homosexual thing on this thread.


                      This thread reeks of prejudice and ignorance. its not me

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                      • Originally posted by faded glory
                        I find it odd how im being called and ignorant and attacked bye lefties. Yet I havent said ONE Bigoted or anti-homosexual thing on this thread.
                        You mean, besides homosexuality not making sense at all? Or it's not natural? Or it's not justified? No, no bigoted or antihomosexual things here, no sir!

                        Using "******" was a particularly sophisticated use of language as well. Kudos.
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                        • Originally posted by Osweld
                          I've been inspired to make a new smiley.



                          ROTFLMAO
                          Speaking of Erith:

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                          • Originally posted by faded glory
                            Someone said the homosexuality/Bisexuality was natural.

                            And I said to prove it. Its not mine to prove it isnt. They said it. They didnt...




                            I find it odd how im being called and ignorant and attacked bye lefties. Yet I havent said ONE Bigoted or anti-homosexual thing on this thread.


                            This thread reeks of prejudice and ignorance. its not me
                            Faded, most of your remarks might not be truly bigoted or hateful, but you seem to have used a lot of ignorant, connotative statements. Just like Boddington does.

                            I'm not meaning to attack you by portraying you as true bigot -- you have just said some ignorant things. It's only becase you do not know better, and you can learn more about this topic.
                            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                            • Originally posted by faded glory
                              Someone said the homosexuality/Bisexuality was natural.

                              And I said to prove it. Its not mine to prove it isnt. They said it. They didnt...
                              How the **** do you prove that?
                              It DOES happen in nature, it's now WELL DOCUMENTED and OBVIOUS.
                              You're the one saying that because it happens in nature it doesn't mean it's natural.

                              What the hell is your problem?

                              I find it odd how im being called and ignorant and attacked bye lefties. Yet I havent said ONE Bigoted or anti-homosexual thing on this thread.
                              1) You'd better not be calling me a leftie
                              2) You have too. You're too ****ing stupid to realize it.

                              This thread reeks of prejudice and ignorance. its not me
                              Not quite, big guy. You're too ignorant to notice your ignorance.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • This thread reeks of prejudice and ignorance. its not me
                                I agree with you FG. These people are so keen in proving that they aren't "bigoted" (whatever their definition of that is), that they are practically up the arses of the homosexuals and bisexuals themselves.
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